Using delves to shove folks into mythics

They will attempt to address the issue, fail, and delves will be nerfed. Give it time.

Blizzard has discarded the next best thing (island expeditions ,warfronts, etc.) over and over again.

the interview is not even from a month ago

they are content with delves. the problem lay with m+ structure

why they eliminated a lot of players key bracket back in season 4 who knows

Nothing stopping you from making your groups and going in. That’s the same thing you always preach to us when we talk about how M+ isn’t newbie friendly.

Oh, so now you’re assuming my skill level, lol.

Hint: Not everybody who does delves is bad at the game, unlike what a lot of you M+ people love to go on about. Some people do delves because they hate manual matchmaking, because they don’t like time limits, because they don’t like speedruns, etc.

But, let’s sweep all that aside, and pretend you didn’t mention “skill level” and assume you meant “delvers”. How exactly are the delvers impacted?

Because those systems were not popular.

Delves are immensely popular.

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best content since class halls

ive been doing them every week on my batches of alts i level to 80

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It’s not a key bracket issue. It’s like increasing lfr loot to normal/heroic, and wondering why other game areas are experiencing issues.

People FARMED island expeditions for azerite. Pretty sure they were popular (or grudgingly done.)

I never said delvers, I said people of your skill level.

herein lies the problem

azerite was needed for endgame

delves are not. they are entirely optional content especially now when raiders and m+ are geared in 630s

great way of alt gearing

I tried a few island expeditions, but they weren’t very fun.

I tried scenarios, they were “meh”.

But Delves? Delves are awesome, they are perfect at what they were designed to do.

Ding ding ding.

Nobody liked Azerite Farming. People HATED that crap with a passion.

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What do you think is the endgame for players that aren’t good enough for m+10 or mythic raid?

content for casual players and rewarding with a lot of good heroic 1 capped loot? loot that a casual solo world content enjoyer would never even dream of seeing in the early part of a season?

forum andies did not like that

The same thing as what “Endgame” was for anybody who wasn’t interested in M+ and didn’t have a raiding guild.

It took until TWW until Blizz finally cared about said people. From Vanilla until DF, the answer was:

Log off.

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they are looking for a problem where there is none.

blizzard is happy with delves

99.9% of players are happy with delves

instead of focusing on non problems (i know it only took 10 years) how about we now focus on making the rest of the game as good as can be

challenge ; impossible

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You don’t see it as a problem doesn’t not make it one.

It’s bad for lower-skill players, and the top end is not affected pretty much.

Citation needed.

Excluding the most rewarding content is the same as excluding everything before it?

I asked you earlier, just how are Delvers impacted by the whole thing, and you never answered me.

WTF are you talking about?

You’re acting like M2-6 doesn’t even exist at all. It exists, but fewer people are running it, because they are too focused on what other people are able to obtain elsewhere.

And again, this is a problem of people being too focused on gear rather than enjoying content.

Either that, or the content just isn’t fun enough to retain the players.

If a person claims to be an “M+ player” and they go “I gotta do delves because they give as good of gear as M2-6” … then are they really M+ players, or were they only doing M+ only because they wanted gear?

That’s the part you don’t seem to get. Anybody who wants to run M2-6 can run M2-6 all they want. But here’s the thing: It’s not that they wanna run M2-6, it’s they want the gear. And so if there’s another way to get the gear, they’ll skip it and happily so.

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Because I never said delves are impacted. I said people of your skill level.

People opt for the path of least resistance.

So you need to change the reward structure so it becomes rewarding.

The best way to kill delve +8? make delve +1, drop mythic raid loot.

You’re going to have to actually define that.

One, you’re making an assumption as to what my “skill level” is (which I myself don’t even know), and Two, you’re not really explaining what you think my skill level is.

And three, you’ve yet to explain how it impacts whatever that skill level you are assuming I am.

ive noticed a lot of the dracthyr posters are very idk how to put it

bad take heavy

like they give me a run for my money

they are as bad as blood elves

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Now, now, let’s not make generalizations based on things that are irrelevant to the thread…

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Okay, people in the 2-6 bracket, do delves, then m+ feels way less rewarding, And maybe 7s is too hard, so they are bored. And they hit a gear/skill wall or because they are at gear cap, they don’t want to spend time in content that doesn’t reward gear to improve their skill.

well theyre generalizing us and our skill level

Correct me if I’m wrong, but Delves gives you a chance at 1 piece of Hero per week, and the Crests to upgrade this Hero gear is painfully slow if you only do Delves.

You do M2-6 to get crests and more chances at Hero gear so you can upgrade it faster, ne?