Unsubbing, WoW tokens, boosts

Because tokens are an excuse bad players use to validate their lack of success.

Nothing more
Nothing less.

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So I’m gonna tell you here and now. Boosters exist in every game, not all of them are loud at advertising but they are there. That is not a Blizzard issue despite how much you guys want to dump it on them. Regardless of what they do boosters WILL be there. Second, although I agree the state of Blizzard is in shambles at the moment I LIKE tokens, I know other people do as well since we don’t necessarily want to pay 15 dollars every month for an older game when there is a cheap alternative. As far as a Blizzard character level boost, I was actually thinking of buying one today just so I could skip Shadowlands leveling on my 4th alt. You’re complaining about things that some people are okay with and in some cases help the community. Botting I don’t think is okay, people should actually have to play the game to get what they have but like I said, I am not sure how much it will help if Blizzard does anything about it. It’s like buying an account on League, they ban and ban and ban them over and over but there are websites where people can buy the accounts for 2 bucks and Riot can’t do anything about it because they can’t always tell which account has been bought.

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That’s certainly an interesting take.

“Diminishes the integrity of the game” is one of those things you might put in a school essay when you’re fishing for word count but don’t have anything meaningful to say.

What sort of “unfair playing field” do you imagine it creates. Outside of PvP, the quality of a player’s gear has no impact on anyone’s gameplay but their own. Unless you somehow believe that a person buying a boost means that they’re going to magically perform better (or get invited more often) in progression raids or M+ groups without having put in the effort to actually learn their character.

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I strongly disagree with this. They’re very upfront with clear addresses to RMT sites right in the group descriptions.

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I forget you have to spell everything out for children who don’t understand the implications of stuff like this…

Diminishes the integrity of the game means:

Challenges were put into this game for players to overcome. Higher end M+, raiding, and pvp. All those are challenges put into the game. The integrity is in those challenges. If you can overcome you’re rewarded (usually if RNG doesn’t crap on you) with high end gear for your efforts. When you can just pay someone or a company to overcome those challenges for you, you’ve basically spit on the game and say “I’m above the rules, I don’t have to do this on my own I can just buy my way through the most challenging content in the game”.

You’re telling me this isn’t the case? Please explain how boosting doesn’t diminish the integrity of the game.

It 100% allows that person into more group opportunities than someone trying to work their way up on their own. In a group finder setting who are you going to choose: a lower io (or whatever it is now) score with a lower ilvl or a higher io score and a higher ilvl? You won’t know the higher io/ilvl person bought runs unless they couldn’t perform in your runs and by then it’s too late, your key is bust and you have to start the process again.

You can’t tell me, with a straight face, that boosting doesn’t affect the game.

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It’s an accurate take.

The vast majority of players aren’t affected by token sales or boosts at all.

The token is used as a scapegoat for why Tim in accounting is hard capped at 1400 arena rating.

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Sure can’t be because of all the boosters in arena that are actively boosting people for money…er…gold. You people are ridiculous.

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Isn’t that most industries?

Ah, yes. So at the end of the day, you’re pissy that someone else is playing the game in a way you don’t approve of. Not surprising.

What do you suppose is the difference between someone asking their group: “can I bring my alt?” and that raid group organizing a sale run?

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Nothing to retort to ANYTHING else I said? You cherry pick this particular line and write something snarky. Figures. I shouldn’t expect much from the dregs of GD.

Because the person asking if they can bring their alt has cultivated a social relationship of respect with their guild. They’ve invested time into the game and are at a point to reap the rewards. That’s how it should be.

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I don’t know if that’s entirely accurate, some people have been complaining about the token since it arrived. Are they Tim in accounting who hasn’t really pvpd in 3 expansions? The player base is more than a scapegoat/strawman.

Why can’t both be true? People do complain wrongly about an unfair advantage the token gives some players and some players use the tokens and boosts culture for an unfair advantage?

If you aren’t actively trash at the game boosters are a free win.

If you’re actively getting 1v2ed it’s a you issue.

People can complain about the token all they want. Doesn’t make it a valid complaint.

The token isn’t going to go anywhere and even if it was removed their main complaints wouldn’t be solved.

Because it’s not an unfair advantage. Any boost can be purchased with or without a token. There isn’t any gear locked behind only purchasing the token.

Feelings don’t matter. Facts do.

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I hope you enjoy your ghostown of a game. You deserve it.

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It’s kind of silly to assume that tokens haven’t changed the way the game has been handled which would affect individual other players, and how that isnt a completely valid and accurate complaint. Or that there couldnt be more than a single concern or issue with the token. No its just that strawman you’ve decided is all complaints.

I’m not personally yelling about an ‘unfair advantage’ but it’s pretty silly to not see buying gold, even if it’s from the product provider, and then using that to buy boosts as not paying to win on some level. Regardless if it’s trivial. It’s perfectly acceptable to see someone trading real cash for things when someone else is just trying to play a game.

If you’re so unwilling to consider that there’s more than one facet to this subject, I can’t help you and I’m not willing to have that kind of a conversation. Have a good ‘I’m right and no else can be right’ kind of posting time.

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That’s why I play other games.

Hope you’re not as bad at other games as you are at WoW.

I’ll bite.

The only people who complain about the token are the ones who can’t afford it or aren’t succeeding at the game.

The people who pay for their game with tokens aren’t complaining

The people who sell boosts aren’t complaining

The people who buy boosts aren’t complaining.

The people who can’t make gold or aren’t succeeding in the game are the ones complaining.

Because by the actual definition it’s not pay to win. Tokens aren’t required to buy boosts. Boosts aren’t locked behind the store. Anyone who can make gold can buy a boost as well.

Anyone can have an opinion. The difference is if the opinion is valid and not just qq from bad players. I still have yet to see a good player complain about the token and even then,

Every example you just gave, wouldn’t be changed if the token was removed.

People have been buying gold and boosts since before the token was introduced.

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I’m by no means a fan of gold seller websites but you almost have to admire that level of effort.

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