Unplayable/unwanted

Yes they exist. Raids and how the fights work change how balance looks

If in the next raid warriors rank high because there’s a lot more cleave are you going to say they’re suddenly strong because the nuances of those fights are now in your favor?

,Yeah, In Togc I press cleave button more. I now look better on the meter on occasion. You’re still being egregious stating that classes can’t be fixed because there’s differences in fights.

BRUH PEOPLE CANT GET A RIAD SPOT WITH CERTAIN SOECS BECUASE DMG IS DOG, buff their dmg.

So yes? If they rank high in that raid does that mean they are in a good place to you?

Wowhead also says this:

  • Specs considered underpowered are generally played less and tend to appear weaker than they are.
  • This happens as many performance-oriented players will tend to play the strongest spec or class, increasing the gap between top and bottom specs even further.

And sims from various class discords confirm that some of the “meme” specs (notice the quotes) aren’t that bad, i.e. Marksmanship is almost on par with Survival in phase 3.

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Yeah all that matters is overall dmg, that’s why I’m advocating for buffs of lower performing classes. Like warriors/rets/ scroll up.

Dude, there are random GMA and officers in guilds that play meme specs, and I can see there 100 parses, it’s always as bad as people say. Mm is absolutely gutter dog water trash compared to surv. And it will be next phase, same thing with destro and affli. Same thing with arms and fury, the list goes on.

Lol, too late. They already did that when DKs were.released lol.

Ok so when next raid rolls up and you see that you’re much higher up because those fights play to your strength there will no longer be a need for a buff! You’ll be good in your eyes because damage is what matters and you’ll be fine in that department

Whew, problem solved

But you’re not… Anyone can go look at your logs and see that you’re not even close to 5300 gs.

Your guild does Yogg 3 Light and it took you 3 minutes and 10 seconds to down Ignis this week. Your guild damage is all over the place. That’s not a very accurate representation of how the classes are.

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You’re just like the other rogue, you just don’t think. I have to keep caps lock to make sure you read and comprehend what im saying. I’ll even type it like im shrek.

I PRESS CLEAVE I DO MORE DMG. I DONT THEN IM LIABILITY BECUASE FERAL POOPS ON ME AND PROVIDE SAME SAME. IN ULDUAR I NO PRESS CLEAVE THAT MUCH, I NO DO GOOD DMG. IN ICC I NO PRESS CLEAVE THAT MUCH, I NO DO GOOD DMG. IN TOGC I PRESS CLEAVE AND IT GUD.

so yes brother. Warriors will go back to being dogwater on single target fights. So I’m not the best in cleave, and I’m far from it in single target, so IF I BUFFED NOW, I RAID IN GUILD WHO WANT BROWN CLASS CUZ GUD CLEAVE AND MEANINGFUL single target.

That’s how that works.

Almost like the nuances of fights changes how balance appears and why broad % increases don’t work.

You’re welcome for that lesson

I see what you did there.

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Well that just proves the bottom point, really. No one competitive is playing the spec, hence your officers got 100s

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Broad percentage would still work right now for warriors, are you mad. But no it wouldn’t be the best, ultimately executes dmg needs to be increased. But fury’s aren’t in the literal dirt like frost mages are.

I’m full bis besides 2 items bro, I’m literally 5255?? Solar bindings and mjolnir l, and my guild did not do 3 light, we did one. And I have seen the performance of every fury warrior in the game on every fight. It’s mediocre unless you can cleave the entire fight.

They wouldn’t. Not at all

Go look at the 100 parses, some of those people are in full bis for that spec and raid in that spec every week. It’s still dogwater, stop defending frost mage and arms warrior and telling me that they’re secretly good, I’m advocating for class buffs here and you people are so desperate for it to not happen.

so it’s either middle of the pack, or very strong on cleave.

so overall, it doesn’t need buffed

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Fury warrior is the worst pve spec in the game in overall dps in ulduar right now, so yes it’s bad.

I always wait for you to pop in here and say something stupid.

Well once we hit next raid he said it’s fine because it’s cleave will shine. So as of next raid it doesn’t need buffs. So they’re just gonna hang tough til then

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I’m not finding any of these parses.

But anyway, you are being rather melodramatic about this whole thing. I played a hunter in vanilla classic and still got invited to raid despite only doing 50% of a warrior’s dps by Naxxramas. Now warriors are maybe 20% below the top at most and suddenly that’s enough to justify buffing a spec.

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Nah what’s enough to justify it is that they buffed other things. Right now what’s stopping the top guild from bringing 10 locks and 10 dks is raid buffs. So the niche that I’m filling is bringing rampage. Which is also brought by a feral. And fury warriors are dead last. Frost mages are dead last. Just certain classes are bad. And it’s messed up. And it should be fixed. Very comical it’s warlocks and rogues non stop telling me it’s good no need to fix it.