I’ll agree with that to some degree but I don’t think sweeping increases in damage should be made just because some can’t play it properly because as we see when it’s played at its highest level it’s a strong spec that is valued by the best. Things like munching though should absolutely be fixed as that’s not a player created issue.
That being said the class lead aims are showing strong growth for fury. Being upset now is shortsighted and knee jerk buffing and nerfing every raid is the worst possible thing blizzard could do to classic. Pointing fingers at druids doesn’t change the fact that constan class balancing is detrimental to this game. Just look at the outrage over one spec getting a major buff. Has to stop
You can’t read, I don’t think brother. But hopefully someone can read this for you. My class is currently dead last, and the only other alternative I have is to play 2 OTHER dogwater specs. A buff would be nice, and you, a paladin, would be ABSOLUTELY unaffected, and EVERYONE would have more fun do to quicker kill times. You see how that works?
Well it’s not because they’re good brother. 90 percentile and lower are dead last on the meter from the pve specs.
I agree. You’re assuming that because I posted a holistic account of Fury performance that I’m trying to campaign for a sweeping damage increase buff. I’m not. I am sympathetic to warrior players as I main one too but I don’t support a general damage buff.
I think bug fixes will go a long way toward bringing the average performer for Fury up to par with the average performer of other specs. The top doesn’t need a buff.
I’m saying it is worth analysing why there is such a disparity for Fury between the top and the average.
Yeah, someone will be last, but are they always brought to raid? If there is already a commanding shout, will another warrior be brought? Maybe? Probably not, the disparity between the bottom and top is too great. If you scroll up and read the ops post, he touches on it as well. Warriors can be last, but EVEN ME, when forming a raid, don’t want that many warriors because I know how bad they are. And that’s the problem.
Of course you don’t stack them, they’re not a warlock or death knight, why stack something that doesn’t do the highest dps
If they did more competitive dps, and one of the warlocks in your guild was like, you know what, I want to play a boomy, they could, everyone could play exactly what they wanted, but no the games unbalanced so any decent guild will only take 1 spriest/1boomy/1-2 mages/1 ret/1 warrior… etc.
Yeah nice and balanced. Raid groups stacking 4-8 dks and warlocks. Nice and fair.
I say brother becuase I feel like I’m talking to some hillbillies. Y’all just don’t get it, and I really want to help you I do. Like, give me your discord, and I’ll call you and talk you through. You literally typed out you want to balance the game around 10 percent of players???
Yep all viable brother but look how many dks and locks are parsing brother. We’re all viable but log on my warrior and ask for a raid spot when they have one already. REALLY VIABKE BROTHER. 3K DPS DIFFERENCE OR MORE BROTHER SOMETIEMS A 20-30% difference, NICE FAIR AND BALANCED BROTHER
WELL BROTHER SOMEONE IS ALWAYS GONNA BE ON TOP JUST LIKE SOMEONE IS ALWAYS GONNA BE ON THE BOTTOM. AS MY FELLOW BROTHER MACHO MAN RANDY SAVAGE ONCE SAID “ THE CREAM ALWAYS RISES TO THE TOP”
Ulduar also has a few bosses that have pretty painful mechanics for melee in general.
Thorim can start one shotting them if you bring too many, mimiron’s head is out of reach, Vezax hits us with a 20% slow while giving like an 8x boost to each spell cast, Freya has plants that proximity explode on death, Hodir favors casters heavily…
A lot of those gimmicks don’t carry over into the later phases, so fights are more likely to be more like XT, where you just deal damage and avoid stuff, with an add to cleave.
Overall Ulduar DPS is a bit misleading because of a lot of that.
I honestly think fury will find themselves in a significantly better spot in ToGC without the crazy gimmick fights, a higher average ilvl, weapons with higher DPS than vold, and a much reduced barrier to obtaining high ilvl items (more than 1 high ilvl item per boss).
I’m also glad that munching is getting fixed for you, which will be a slight bump upward.
ICC should see a pretty significant bump up just because of some pretty intensely good items in there to pick up. Rets aren’t the only ones getting some really nice things in there other than Shadowmourne.
It’s not an immediate fix for warriors, but at the high end, warriors seem to be doing relatively well on the fights that aren’t stacked against them in Ulduar.
But right now, it’s only the near BiS warriors that are doing ok, which to me points more toward needing ToGC to be launched more than it points to the class needing buffs.
I DONT MIND BEING ON THE BOTTOM BROTHER, BUT SO FAR, ONLY ONE OF ME IS WELCOME OUT OF 19 OTHER DPS BROTHER.
I LIKE EVERYONE TO HAVE A FAIR SHOT BROTHER. A CLASS SHOULDN’T BE SO MUCH STRONGER THAN ME THAT ONLY ONE OF ME IS ALLOWED, BUT UNLIMITED OF THE WARLOCK DK BROTHER!
The same “in vanilla warriors were stacked”, no one played that game on purpose bro. We’re balancing stuff now, and classes need some balancing, I ain’t even mad. When I raid I’m way above the bottom of the pack, game feels alright for me. I’m advocating for other specs, and the bottom 90 percent of warriors. Games great for me.