Unofficial Sethrak Discussion Thread 🐍

[Schreiber-wyrmrest-accord (Schreiber)]

That’s all very true, I forgot about the connection to lightning. I like the idea of this pairing more and more, I really hope we’re getting more allied races announced at Blizzcon, or even straight up new races tied to the coming expansion!

[Relart-amanthul (Relart)]

Plus not to be mean to Horde but technically Mogu do align better with Horde too being a more aggressive overlord style race too, not saying all Horde are this way but does align a little to the Chieftain system the Orcs use quite a bit (infact im still angry the Mag’har got shafted out of it, why are there no speakers for the clans under Femthrall? adds more character and detail to them as a race).

[Ahadi-silvermoon]

https://preview.redd.it/s4qvvz5kwmr31.png?auto=webp&s=c66d519e865ff025c6da592f2293dee982a4907d

[Talendrion-wyrmrest-accord (Talendrion)]

Since Blizzard has given vulpera to goblins and junk gnomes to gnomes, it remains to be hoped that this is a possible standard for other playable races!

Still missing worgen, forsaken and pandaren!
We haven’t seen anything yet for these 3 races that still allow the chance of sethraks as a playable race!

So can we see worgen receiving sethrak and not a worgen-related race, as it was with goblin receiving vulpera, and forsaken some other race related to the dead?
If there’s consistency in Blizzard, maybe!

Unsure if we are gonna get a Pandaren bases AR, but if the rumours of going back to Northrend are true, it might be the perfect opportunity for Tuskarr to return as a neutral race.

So:

Horde: Undead Elf
Alliance: Sethrak
Neutral: Tuskarr

[Kaercha-kelthuzad]

I don’t think we’ll see a neutral race again.

[Oakenshroot-durotan]

I feel bad for people who held on to the Sethrak hope.

[Talendrion-wyrmrest-accord (Talendrion)]

I hope that’s not the case; if it’s true the faction conflict is gonna start being downplayed somehow, Neutral Races/Allied Races could be the perfect way of following that design while not changing the alignment of the races already factioned.

[Schreiber-wyrmrest-accord (Schreiber)]

I appreciate your sympathy, thank you.

I’m still holding onto hope until Blizzcon blows past, though.

[Fallynn-wyrmrest-accord (Fallynn)]

Not to mention, I’m pretty sure Nightborne weren’t built on player models at all either, yet here they are playable. Sure, there’s many unsatisfied by how they look–but that’s the thing. They’re not using the original nightborne models at all, and changed them to be playable in some fashion.

So even if it wasn’t planned from the start, they can still modify things based on feedback, it would just take much longer. Kind of like how Kul’tirans took a long time.

[Talendrion-wyrmrest-accord (Talendrion)]

Not to mention, I’m pretty sure Nightborne weren’t built on player models at all either, yet here they are playable. Sure, there’s many unsatisfied by how they look–but that’s the thing. They’re not using the original nightborne models at all, and changed them to be playable in some fashion.

So even if it wasn’t planned from the start, they can still modify things based on feedback, it would just take much longer. Kind of like how Kul’tirans took a long time.

I mean that’s the issue, NB were introduced when the whole concept of AR wasn’t most likely a thing, but by the time Sethrak were introduced and developed, the AR concept was already in place.

So I do think that tells us they weren’t intended as an AR when created, but it’s important to make clear it doesn’t meant Blizz -either internally or thanks to feedback- hasn’t or can’t change their mind.

I don’t think the Kul Tiran issue is related tho; they were most likely decided at the same time than Zandalari given their narrative place as counterparts, it just feels like the conceptualization and development took longer.

[Grayphus-nemesis (Grayphus)]

There are 4 races using worgen-related skeletons!
Sauroks , Sethraks , Saberons and Arakkoas !!!
If vulperas were given to the goblins for wearing their skeleton, then it would make sense (I hope so in Blizzard’s hearts and minds) one of these 4 variants that are based on the male and female models of the worgen, appear as a race recruited by the Alliance!

[Byucknah-agamaggan (Byucknah)]

@Ahadi-silvermoon

https://preview.redd.it/s4qvvz5kwmr31.png?auto=webp&s=c66d519e865ff025c6da592f2293dee982a4907d

Just as Sylvanas failed to kill hope so to has Blizzard!

Sethrak use the Worgen Skeleton and we have yet to get a Worgen AR! Keep the hope alive! Glory to Sethraliss! Glory to the Alliance! Blargh, I spit up a bit saying that last part… I feel dirty.

[Fangalmouth-wyrmrest-accord]

Um…

Arakkoa don’t use the Worgen frame…

They can use the Forsaken frame if need-be for emergency armor-rigging, but that’s it.

[Grayphus-nemesis (Grayphus)]

Amém Brother! Amém!!!
Lok’tar!

[Alaeis-wyrmrest-accord (Alaeis)]

The fact there is still room for 2 more allied races on the banner and it kinda seems like the horde might get some sort of light forged undead or dark ranger race gives me hope. Keep in mind that sethrak are built on female worgen bones and were given the azerite necklace animation for some reason.

There are still hope for our beloved snakes. Keep faith.

[Rorrand-wyrmrest-accord (Rorrand)]

Sauroks , Sethraks , Saberons and Arakkoas !!!

Arakkoa aren’t in this list.

However, there is a fourth race that does use the worgen skeleton…

https://wow.gamepedia.com/Dragonman

[Relart-amanthul (Relart)]

If Blizzard has a brain and makes the races unbiased again they’d probably do Lightforged Undead as a subrace for Horde specially since Calia is there now and Alliance will get a new race like Ankoan, Jinyu, Sethrak basically something that isn’t a subrace or a reskin (or that super weird area junkergnomes are in, are they even genetically a subrace???).

Plus this gives Horde access to Undead Paladins which strangely a few people do want, i think they’re into self pain or something lol.

[Grayphus-nemesis (Grayphus)]

However, there is a fourth race that does use the worgen skeleton…

LOL? And do you really imagine Blizzard giving players something dragon-related?
I don’t see it happening, but if it happens, it won’t be for ally it will be done!

So arakkoas is not a possibility? What a surprise!
Saurok, sethrak and saberon are still a choice to consider!

But Dragonman? I strongly doubt Blizzard will do anything to them as a playable race! And if you do, as usual, you will have nothing related to the Alliance!

Just another disappointment like junkgnomes!

[Schreiber-wyrmrest-accord (Schreiber)]

People keep saying it’s going to be holy undead, but I have to ask, how would that work, exactly? It’d be unprecedented for there to be an allied race without an attached reputation requirement, and so far there’s nothing even close to resembling a reputation for Calia.

And yes, I know, the Argussian Reach doesn’t have a lot to do with void elves, or the 7th Legion the Dark Iron dwarves, but both are at least tangentially related in some slight fashion. There’s really not any Battle reputations I can think of that’d even be close to Calia, especially on the Horde side.

I really think the last allied races are going to come from either the Unshackled, the Waveblade Ankoan, the Rajani, or the Uldum Accord.

I have a hard time seeing gilblins happening right after vulpera, and if gilblins aren’t happening, then I also have hard time seeing ankoan happening too. So, mogu and sethrak, please! Bring on the thundery allies!

[Fangalmouth-wyrmrest-accord]

People keep saying it’s going to be holy undead, but I have to ask, how would that work, exactly?

The reason why Holy Undead are a common suggestion is due to the fact that the Forsaken and Worgen are the last two Core Races (pandaren not withstanding) to receive an AR.

The most common trend is that the ARs use animations/rigs from the Core Races they correspond with most, so it makes sense these two rigs would be the picks for the final BfA ARs.

Besides, ActiBlizz are known to BS their way around Lore.