Yeah since they said it’s just a titan viewpoint story. It could be inaccurate. I guess that does let them have a bit more freedom in developing future stuff.
That kinda irked me when they made that statement. Sure the viewpoint gives them more flexibility with their story, but I was under the impression that Chronicle was supposed to be like the official description of events.
Same.
Like an actual concrete reference book.
Ah I gotcha.
Yeah, the whole concept of the afterlife kinda starts to fall apart the way wow did it with even a slight thought about whats going on and that they can die… they’re supposed to be death. Though I guess it would kinda suck if we killed the big bad and they’d just come back a bit later… even if reincarnated.
Eh Skyrim’s werebears always look awful to me. Furbolg work so well on a pandaren rig and actually look like a player version of their npc models. I hope Blizzard goes that route when they add them to the playable roster.
There is some thoughts that they both descended from the Jalgar, but the Pandaren were affected by the waters of the Vale of Eternal Blossoms. There isn’t really any true evidence in game or lore for it though beyond I think one mention. I’ll have to go look it up again. Found some mention while I was researching this thread.
I actually do like that concept myself. That the two races stemmed from the Jalgar… cause like… why even mention the Jalgar otherwise?
SO MUCH THIS!
My main is a druid (most of the time) and I would really like both updates to some of my current models that are not up to current par and new ones that I can just get each expansion.
They need something like this so bad.
They also need compendiums on the races so we have details about how all of them work, their cultures, the dos and don’ts, and how they’d react or respond… heck what happens when a void elf has a child?
Theres so many missing bits of lore.
Been wanting this since Cata! This post was great; lots of effort and a thoroughly plausible conception of how to do this…10.0, this, or a tinker class…or both?
Yeah, but someone like Zovaal isn’t part of the cycle, he was created to manage it.
But some other creature bound to his service…sure…but that’d likely be an issue as they’d become something new and who knows where. Another pass through life to gather more anima…the whole continuing cycle…rebirth and death etc. All themes that’d have made sense compared to the oblivion crap.
Yeah, I think I’ve seen where someone remodeled them or was trying to so they looked a lot better. The pandaren based version works for me.
That’s what I would have assumed. All races basically have an origin as a construct or made by magic.
I don’t understand how there weren’t any covenant based druid forms added in.
Each zone pretty much has forms that’d have worked fantastic too. Ugh.
Actually that would have made the turning into a robot things easier to take… If death had that more no Oblivion only reincarnation somewhere or somewhen else, but Zovaal and the other Eternals were a one and done deal. I could live with that easily.
Thats another thing, unless we find out the realms of Life make new souls, then Anima would be a limited resource.
My dream would be for Blizzard to put out some compendiums on the various playable and non-playable races to explain some of their cultures, biologies, view points and the rogues and outliers of their societies.
Really give us something to work with. Within that though they’d explain where many of the races (at least the playable and common ones) came from.
Not to be a broken record but…
SO MUCH THIS!
All right time for another furbolg tribe!
Today I thought I’d talk about my second favorite, yet entirely devastated, tribe. The Blackwood furbolg tribe.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/906675648829984808/943962102194913340/Kathaw_the_Savage.jpg
These furbolg live all throughout Darkshore and were initially corrupted by saytrs from Felwood but the Alliance adventurers dealt with those saytr and gave the Blackwood an offering of blessed fruit, nuts and grains cleansing them of their corruption.
Later during the Cataclysm these furbolg would serve as a questing hub, ridding them of a fire elemental problem, and gaining their support for Malfurion in his bid to save Darkshore.
Then they’re mostly ignored for the rest of the game until the pre-patch for BfA during the War of Thorns.
During this time the Horde attacks Darkshore and takes control of the Blackwood village killing many of its members and capturing its leaders, Elder Brownpaw, Elder Brolg and Gren Tornfur. The Alliance would later rescue these leaders and many of the rest of the tribe.
During the Battle for Darkshore, the Blackwood would attempt to recapture their home, but the Horde, now calling it Kor’gar Outpost, would fight them off and kill both Brolg and Brownpaw. Gren Tornfur would be captured, experimented on and put down by the Alliance.
Blizzard and the wiki state that the Blackwood tribe is still “alive” but labeled as “crippled”.
And thats most of what we have on them. One of a few furbolg tribes to be entirely “allied” with the Alliance though not so much so that they attacked the Horde on sight (until the Battle for Darkshore) but its immensely suggested that they are with the Alliance during the quests in Cata and BfA.
I have a dream that when the furbolg become playable the Blackwood will be represented by a young new chieftain from among their remaining number, and that they will be a eager tribe to join the Alliance given what has happened to the Blackwood tribe over the years.
This has been the fourth installment of my Furbolg Tribes section and I hope you all enjoyed it. I know this one was a bit shorter compared to others but honestly many of the remaining tribes will be short like this. There just isn’t a lot of information on the tribes on their own.
If you’d like to see the other posts where I have talked about previous tribes I’ll leave a list here and you can visit the “Furbolg Tribes” section of the main post.
Ursol guide you, Ursoc give you strength.
This sounds like an awesome series of books that I would pre-order immediately.
…of course, given their track record with lore books, I would hope that it would be accurate and also not be something they just retcon for the sake of it in the future. < - <
Playable Alliance Furbolgs are a bear necessity!
It would also be hilariously ironic that the only ones not truly eternal were the Eternals.
I don’t mind it too much. It’s straight out of the Mavel’s Eternals movie. I found it pretty surprising when I watched it and there’s this big reveal of how things work and how incredibly similar it all was to WoW. Makes Zovaal even more of a knockoff Thanos.
We even got the geometic yellow magic.
Come to think of it, the scene with the first deviant, it reminded me a bit of venom, so also a void creature, but thinking back on it, it’s also very similar to devourers. Although I did kinda expect them to link back to the void eventually, but who knows if they will, as they were all about consuming.
Deviants also had some zerg qualities, which are also voidy/lovecraftian.
Things could have been planned out much better. I guess they could always go this route later. There actually wasn’t oblivion!
That’d be pretty cool. Could either do it as books to recoup costs or some sort of official wiki and could even have links to access it in-game.
They are and aren’t. It’s the same way in the Marvel movie.
In the trailer for the patch, you see a ton of the protoforms, I guess these are visible in the raid…so there’s always a way to make more of the Eternals if one died, but maybe there needs to be a First One there to run the machinery, which is why the Arbiter was made instead. shrugs
So they could live eternally, and if destroyed make a new one. Although they could also have gone with a memory back up/cosmic spirit back up, which is then placed in a new body for regeneration.
Even if they’re short, they’re still educational!
Really? I should probably actually watch that then.
I think devourers will be found in every cosmic realm.
I think they’re the entropy to the system the First Ones set in motion.
Part of the seventh power that seeks to break it.
Blizzard is well known for retcons at this point.
I think I’d do it as a Horde and Alliance races book to start. Covering all currently playable races we have right now and relevant off shoots.
Tauren would include Taunka and Yuangol, dwarves earthen and Frostborn. That sort of thing.
Then have a book about common races that are normally enemies.
And then another about neutral races.
Then one about cosmic races. Sls races, naruu Legion demons. That sort.
Then from there add more books to cover new races added in expansions and any missed races.
And keep going it. With occasional revisions of something important changes.
That is my hope at least.
Maybe one day blizzard will make my furbolg dreams come true.
Ursol guide you. Ursoc give you strength.
Yup, I was surprised. It instantly brought to mind some of the 9.2 models I’d seen datamined.
I liked them. I’d like to learn more of them too.
Saying the bit about an entropy system created by the first ones makes me laugh…ties back to that movie
That’d work well.
It all comes back to the Eternals!
Blizzard is becoming Disney!
Well, sure seem to be borrowing from them.
Other day at work I was bored so I went through and read the journals by Al’firim that you recover in Tazavesh. I just read it via wow head.
It definitely has a Lovecraft vibe to it. I’ve been reading a whole lot of that stuff…actually for a lot longer than I realized. I think I was reading some of this stuff when 8.3 was live.
It’s also interesting that he’s mentioned as being “mad”. Makes me think of the mad arab Abdul Alhazred, the author of the Necronomicon in Lovecraft’s stories…who also inspired the character Abd Al-Hizir in Diablo 3…kinda left me wondering who also voices Firim.
I’d imagine the similarities are on purpose. The whole research into old gods and the cosmos. Similar language used and such. I quite enjoy that stuff too. Part of why wished 8.3 could have been a whole expansion…I mean if you take BFA and take out the faction war crap, you’re basically left with a Lovecraftian expansion, but it’s not the old god centric style of Lovecraft I was really wanting like 8.3 was.
You should definitely give it a watch and let me know what you think
Yep, that easily could’ve been two expansions: one about the faction war, one about the Old Gods. Instead we get N’zoth as a space flea from nowhere pasted awkwardly onto the end of a story that had started out as a faction war, but literally had the ocean ripped out from under its ships when they dumped us in Nazjatar.
Most likely blizzard has never been shy to borrow ideas. (unless it’s ideas from other mmos that would improve player enjoyment apparently…)
Honestly I feel like blizzard should be less afraid of borrowing.
Yeah, it’s been said before.
BFA and SLs could have just been called wow: missed opportunities.
Blizzard had never been shy about retelling story elements borrowing from other games. There is literally a rambo dude in the alliance story and a gnome named linken in questing lol
WoW stole SO much from Warhammer Online between BC and Wrath