Unofficial Playable Furbolg Discussion Thread

[Mootie-darrowmere]

+1 This game needs more bears

[Greatbrae-dalaran]

Indeed. Also think of all the bear names ppl would use. All the future memes with them…

[Emerril-wyrmrest-accord]

There do seem to be similarities between the two.

I also think a more upright model or posture option would be good for them.

[Zulathra-thrall]

We already have pandaren playable, moving on.

[Fenelon-wyrmrest-accord]

I appreciate your bump sir.

[Greatbrae-dalaran]

Panderen and furbolgs is 2 different peoples, with different cultures and values. Not the same!

[Bagzak-rexxar]

Thought I would link this video going over all species of bears to inspire some Furbolg fur customization options:

All 8 Species of Bear (+7 Subspecies You Haven't Heard Of)

I imagine a lot of customization potential for playable Furbolgs!

Playable Alliance Furbolgs are a bear necessity!

[Zulathra-thrall]

Pandaren are the superior bear.

[Lancelot-lightnings-blade (Lancelot)]

Both bears’d be better.

[Greatbrae-dalaran]

Pandaren is too drunk to care who is the superior bear. They are also too into making brew to care for nature.

Furbolgs is far superior. Also grizzly bears are stronger then pandas

[Zulathra-thrall]

I know you are mostly joking but pandaren care for nature. They straight up make giant veggies.

[Greatbrae-dalaran]

Only the part that feeds them!

[Naughtymoon-proudmoore (Naughtymoon)]

Awww, I always love when you share videos.

[Fenelon-wyrmrest-accord]

@Bagzak-rexxar

Thought I would link this video going over all species of bears to inspire some Furbolg fur customization options:

Oh very nice! I didn’t realize how many bear species there were. I know about many myself but 15 is a lot more than I expected.

@Bagzak-rexxar

I imagine a lot of customization potential for playable Furbolgs!

I would adore that blue bear coloration for my own furbolg. It’d make him look a lot like my dogs actually.

Current furbolg already have white, black, grey, brown and depending on who you ask red so theres a lot of color variation already but using some of these bears to add patterning, which I would expect, would be a wonderful idea.

@Zulathra-thrall

Pandaren are the superior bear.

Both have much to offer to the world I think.

Pandaren are a wonderful addition to the game and I wish they’d get more storyline, but furbolg are a whole other race with not a whole lot in common beyond seeking balance and peace.

@Lancelot-lightnings-blade

Both bears’d be better.

I absolutely agree. I think many people would enjoy furbolg just as many currently enjoy the pandaren.

@Zulathra-thrall

I know you are mostly joking but pandaren care for nature

They do indeed. I actually do feel that Pandaren should be allowed to be druids and have their forms be based on the four August Celestials.

@Zulathra-thrall

They straight up make giant veggies.

This however isn’t because of “nature” so much as the enchanted waters falling from the Vale of Eternal Blossoms, which is one of the several Un’goro like places across Azeroth where the titans tested Life on the world of Azeroth during its ordering.

[Bagzak-rexxar]

@Fenelon-wyrmrest-accord

Current furbolg already have white, black, grey, brown and depending on who you ask red so theres a lot of color variation already but using some of these bears to add patterning, which I would expect, would be a wonderful idea.

Makes me wonder what fur pattern I’d use for my Furbolg. I might have to play around with the character customization to have a better idea, but I currently lean towards white fur similar to polar bears. I think I like that pattern the most on Furbolg NPC’s.

Although, I’d likely have urges to drink coca-cola while playing as him.

Playable Alliance Furbolgs are a bear necessity!

[Vaelian-silver-hand (Vaelian)]

@Fenelon-wyrmrest-accord

Remembered both times that he goes to die in the Shadowlands never to be recovered.

That’s one of the things that I think was badly thought out.
Going to the afterlife only to die and meet oblivion.
I wish they’d have gone with more of a cycle…it fits so much better.
Ursol going on to ardenweald only to die, but instead of oblivion, it just means that instead of regenerating and returning as Ursol, he goes on to be reborn as something entirely different, likely somewhere entirely different.

For your regular soldier types spread across the shadowlands, it also makes sense, as you’re still losing a soldier as they are returning to the cycle to be reborn anew. Meh…it’s pretty disappointing as it currently is.

As for the original post, I quite like the idea. I enjoyed reading it and also throw my support behind playable Furbolgs.
The mockup using the pandaren also works really well. Alternates I could see possibly working would be the Kultiran, but I’d like to see Mok’nathal added making use of that…and maybe Vrykul too.
Another would be the edited ogre rig. The problem there though, is the lack of a female rig. They all have a nice weightyness to them. Pandaren works for me. There’s also likely a shared history somewhere.
I’d seen the models of the Warcraft Reforged Furbolgs, those look pretty good too, and something about their stance is familiar too…dunno if it’s reminding me of the two mentioned above or what.

Furbolgs would be great =]

I’m all for having the racial options being very diverse.

@Fenelon-wyrmrest-accord

Been trying to think up druid forms for the furbolg and so far what I have is kinda boring.

Eh, works for me.
I’d still really like to see Night Elven Worgen and I’d really like all wolf based forms for them, but I also think all of the options should be available to any druid. Perhaps Without the specific racial flair, but if they added wolf options, I’d expect Gilnean worgen to have access and whoever else liked it. I’m all about options for all, let people play what they want how they want.

Travel sea …could just go with a polar bear

@Fenelon-wyrmrest-accord

They’d never do it but a unique form of the werebear form would be really nice. Imagine many folk would flip their lids though. Lol

That’d be pretty fitting. Could always do that but use a different rig so it’s still visually different. Something like the dire orc. You get the big hulking bear, but it’s not the Gronnling style. Although that is a pretty cool one.

[Fenelon-wyrmrest-accord]

Blizzard Announcing Next World of Warcraft Expansion on April 19th

Blizzard will announce the new expansion on April 19th!

Hopefully we’ll see more allied races and more customization with this new expansion! I truly hope the furbolg get to be a part of wow someday and while I wont expect them to show up next expansion I will hope for them!

Ursol guide you, Ursoc give you strength.

[Fenelon-wyrmrest-accord]

@Vaelian-silver-hand

That’s one of the things that I think was badly thought out.
Going to the afterlife only to die and meet oblivion.
I wish they’d have gone with more of a cycle…it fits so much better.
Ursol going on to ardenweald only to die, but instead of oblivion, it just means that instead of regenerating and returning as Ursol, he goes on to be reborn as something entirely different, likely somewhere entirely different.

Thats what it actually is.

Ursoc was killed because of the drought. The Winter Queen had to cull some of the wild souls to save as many as she could with her anima stores depleting.

Normally when the anima is flowing the Wild Gods and other such nature spirits would simply rest until they gathered enough anima to regenerate then return (supposedly) to the Dream and then finally rebirth into the world.

Ursoc though didn’t need to be the soul that Blizzard had die. It was just meant to be jarring to us and make us feel the weight of the drought.

I hate it. I understand it but it was a terrible idea and concept in my mind.

@Vaelian-silver-hand

As for the original post, I quite like the idea. I enjoyed reading it and also throw my support behind playable Furbolgs.

Thank you!

Its been a long time that I was thinking about all this, and Lance has put so much work into making those models for me!

@Vaelian-silver-hand

The mockup using the pandaren also works really well. Alternates I could see possibly working would be the Kultiran, but I’d like to see Mok’nathal added making use of that…and maybe Vrykul too.
Another would be the edited ogre rig. The problem there though, is the lack of a female rig. They all have a nice weightyness to them. Pandaren works for me. There’s also likely a shared history somewhere.

A lot of people wanted to use the worgen but honestly I think the pandaren one works best. In game furbolg even have a bit of a belly too so I think with a few model edits to the skeleton pandaren would work extremely well as the base.

There was a long time in the early days that folk thought Pandaren were evolved furbolg, but it seems thats mostly not been canonized.

@Vaelian-silver-hand

I’m all for having the racial options being very diverse.

They seemed fairly good for a range of classes which was part of my intent while keeping it close to something that fit.

@Vaelian-silver-hand

Eh, works for me.
I’d still really like to see Night Elven Worgen and I’d really like all wolf based forms for them, but I also think all of the options should be available to any druid. Perhaps Without the specific racial flair, but if they added wolf options, I’d expect Gilnean worgen to have access and whoever else liked it. I’m all about options for all, let people play what they want how they want.

Honestly think worgen should just get their werewolf forms updated to fit a more wolfy theme. Thats just me though.

@Vaelian-silver-hand

Travel sea …could just go with a polar bear

HA!

That would be amusing.

@Vaelian-silver-hand

That’d be pretty fitting. Could always do that but use a different rig so it’s still visually different. Something like the dire orc. You get the big hulking bear, but it’s not the Gronnling style. Although that is a pretty cool one.

Sure, though I think that would still cause folk to be a bit upset. So many wish the moonkin form was more like the Zandalari one nowadays… it started a whole movement for change there… I feel like doing that to Furbolg bear would do the same.

[Vaelian-silver-hand (Vaelian)]

@Fenelon-wyrmrest-accord

Thats what it actually is.

I may have not made that as clear as I meant.
Yes the current version is to ardenweald and then rebirth or in his case, oblivion as the wild seed was culled.
What I was saying would have been a better version was to have all that be the case, but in the case of the wild seed being culled, or anyone else dying in the shadowlands meeting oblivion, to instead have them return to the cycle. They’d just be reborn elsewhere in the cosmos.
To put it simpler…
current = rebirth only for wild gods or oblivion
better = rebirth to previous life for wild gobs or rebirth for anyone upon second death somewhere else in the cosmos. More of an actual reincarnation thing. No oblivion.

The whole oblivion thing sucks when you consider what an afterlife is supposed to be. It just ends up being another life that has a definite end.

@Fenelon-wyrmrest-accord

Its been a long time that I was thinking about all this, and Lance has put so much work into making those models for me!

Lance did a great job on them too.

@Fenelon-wyrmrest-accord

A lot of people wanted to use the worgen but honestly I think the pandaren one works best. In game furbolg even have a bit of a belly too so I think with a few model edits to the skeleton pandaren would work extremely well as the base.

Yup, I like the bulkiness of padaren version. The worgen seems a bit too lean for a bear, but I guess you’ve got skyrim that used the same rig for both the werewolf and bear, but yeah, a bulkier bear is better. On that one they look a little too similar.

@Fenelon-wyrmrest-accord

There was a long time in the early days that folk thought Pandaren were evolved furbolg, but it seems thats mostly not been canonized.

I couldn’t recall if they had a common ancestor or not. Been a while since I’ve perused my Chronicle book and who knows how accurate they are anymore.
Does make sense there’d be a link.

@Fenelon-wyrmrest-accord

Honestly think worgen should just get their werewolf forms updated to fit a more wolfy theme. Thats just me though.

More wolf-like druid forms would be great. I really feel like druid forms should be a standard addition during stuff. Treat it more like questing and tier armor. A lot more options.
I’d just race change my Night elf druid into a night elven worgen druid in a heartbeat if the chance arose. Even more so with wolf based animal forms

@Fenelon-wyrmrest-accord

Sure, though I think that would still cause folk to be a bit upset. So many wish the moonkin form was more like the Zandalari one nowadays… it started a whole movement for change there… I feel like doing that to Furbolg bear would do the same.

More instances where there’s far too few options. Additional forms should be a regular occurence.

[Somand-proudmoore]

@Vaelian-silver-hand

Been a while since I’ve perused my Chronicle book and who knows how accurate they are anymore.

Warcraft lore tends to be annoyingly inconsistent, but I believe the general rule is that Chronicle is canon until any specific parts of it get retconned, like the Spirit Healer origin for example.