Said Undead Night Elves went to the Maw before being raised. They lost all respect for Elune and were probably thinking that they were in the wrong to fight for the Alliance since they were dumped into the worst afterlife upon death.
Being sent to the worst Afterlife probably would cause one to question their life’s choices.
The souls of the Undead are partially attached to their corpses. As stated in recent lore, not all Undead are fortunate enough to have the same mind set as they had in life.
I think we can all agree that for the most part the Undead aren’t the same people they were in life(not saying all). They should not be penalized for not making the same choices they would have in life because their souls have been changed.
Speaking of NEs, if Summermoon and Sira died today I don’t think they should be shipped off to be tortured for the rest of eternity. Undeath changes your soul, they are not the same people they were in life.
I know you are trying to justify them switching sides for no reason, but doesn’t that conflict with the, “no one has escaped this vile place?” Or is that no one escapes unless you side with Sylvanas?
Sylvanas wasn’t the only one raising undead this expansion tho. Even the Tidesages were doing it in Stormsong.
I wonder if the undead remember their afterlife(Sylvanas seemed to be a special case)
Thats not how it works at all lol, the arbiter doesnt care that your undead or living your soul is judged for everything every single thing. This is what blizzard said, undead arent special, thats headcanon
Blizzard has already said that currently all Souls go into the Maw(Blizzard specifically calls out the Souls of those at the burning of Teldrassil as being sent there) so Sylvanas’s Valkyr being able to pull them out is expected.
Seems Necromancy can fetch Souls from the Maw. They don’t escape but are plucked from there…
Bwomsamdi of course seems to have noticed the Maw grabbing Souls so in order to maintain his realm he made a deal with us to give him Souls to balance the current lose of Souls coming in on their own.
Pretty sure geting rezed or becoming undead has nothing to where you go, if your in bastion or the maw, if you get rezed you just get pulled back.
You don’t get there if you’re rezzed. When we die we’re waiting in the gray world with the swirly sky.
Just so we’re all on the same sheet of music, there is not such thing as an “Undead Soul” the title is a little misleading.
I expected that most of us would know that the Undead don’t have the same soul that they had while alive.
I assume that the soul is whole again(original soul) once it goes to the Shadowland. I just don’t understand why would a whole soul get judged for what a partially attached/mangled/twisted/cursed soul did while undead.
Literally not how it works
Shoot, I’m all ears, that’s what this thread is for : )
I dunno where to even start, theres no just things as partial souls for one, no idea where that comes from, sylvanas doesnt have another sylvanas anywhere else.
Dare I say that the majority of the posters on this forum know that the souls of the undead are partially attached to their corpses. No offense to you.
Do you need the direct reference?
The soul isnt in parts tho, just cause they have a bad attachment to there bodies, doesnt mean there is multiple souls now lol
I feel we are putting more thought into this than Blizzard has. Blizzard tends to work on the principle of ‘that sounds cool’ so you tend to find inconsistencies if you look to close. Maybe the Arbiter is just a jerk, Odyn style. Kind of important for the greater good but someone you still wish you could punch in the face from time to time.
The quote says that only part of the soul is attached, it sounds like that the Undead are not working with a whole(original) soul. I think we can both agree on that.
The Undead are not(for the most part) exactly the same people they were in life. I think the difference is clear in 99.9% of the undead. They are fundamentally different, they have been rewired by necromancy, I liked to use the term cursed.
Thats not how it works at all, they are 100% the same person, just there emotions are wack cause the soul is not properly attached to there bodies, its like they are missing screws, they dont have half there soul somewhere else having a experience thats not at all what blizzard said or even implied ever.
Sorry there isnt gonna be a good sylvanas hanging out in the shadowlands that we meet to help redeem her.
So what do think is meant by “their souls are partially attached”? If something is partially attached where is the rest of it?
You hit the nail on the head when you said that they have a few screws missing, which is my main point.
Not what I meant at all. That has never even crossed my mind.
I assume when the souls is back in the Shadowlands that its a pure untainted soul free of any dark necromancy magic that twist the soul.