I don’t want or need atonement from them. The only regret I have about Teldrassil is that we missed some.
The writing is strange for sure. This character is mainly in ardenweald for the loa as well. Him going along with sylvanus was him trusting vol’jin and the loa. After the quest line with vol’jins spirit he started to rebel. And this guy was fine with conquering, just not the burning masses to death. He’s got a thing about fire since fire is used against trolls so much. Also waste of nature in his eyes. And it put the shatter spear tribe at risk. They had nothing to do with the burning and the night elves tried to wipe them out because of it. Every single shatter spear death is on sylvanas hands, in his eyes.
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This is the Blizz reality. They always miss out on what should be the “all players” experience versus the “faction” experience. In Shadowlands Alliance and Horde should have had faction specific questlines with their heroes past and present. In truth I don’t know the Tyrande storyline, so I don’t know the brevity of it being a storyline for ‘all players’ but why would they have made Horde follow Tyrande in the first place? That should have been Alliance specific while giving Horde time with Vol’Jin, Rastakhan, Bwonsomdi, maybe even Saurfang.
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And imo you should have an option to tell them that or something like that at least. You also have the option of making shandris hunt down night elves with you in the maw when she is your ‘guardian’. It’s really funny.
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This reminds me.
There is a questline in Drustvar, that you help a red dragon to secure a corpse of another dragon to stop a Death Knight from raising it to use as a mount.
You can do that quest as a Death Knight and you’ll gain a series of options and unique dialogues because the events of the DK class mount questline.
The Ardenweald quest could use that, but it seems that the questline will be too extensive for that type of experience.
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I love when it’s this easy.
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I mean we can play that game all we want. I’ve seen ally posts about how any and all horde players should have their characters deleted in retribution for Teldrassil, and I’ve also see ally posts in this very thread agreeing that the horde writing is rather poor. 
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The Alliance wants blood, why not grant their wish? Can’t believe Daelin recainarted as a gnome
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Then you are welcome to jump the gun when you see such posts, thing is seven only has to point out the hypocrisy and double standard to make his point.
Obviously is not worth flaunting those extreme points of view so shamelessly, like a gorilla thumping its chest, when you have fans of the other faction in this forum and you want to have a discussion, i too want all the horde to be dead but i try to be measured on how i post because thats not the players fault, else it can come as an inflammatory comment which is not what i want because we got enough trolling around here.
Some people cant differentiate the story forums with the rp forums or just like to post for the sake of getting a response, such people are better ignored and this goes for both sides.
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I disagree and agree - to a degree.
I disagree in dismissing extremes. They should be considered - as either substantive or foolish or worse, destructive. I think the extremes do have valid and entertaining additions to Story Discussions, as those extremes are represented by the Devs in the story. They even added a Tauren in BfA who has beef about Taurajo, and a Blood Elf who is raw about the Purge of Dalaran who is helping to detain Baine. So these attitudes are canon with Characters in the Story.
However, I agree on where the blame lies. I certainly don’t blame Alliance Players because Blizzard only uses the Horde when they want to make them villains. I don’t blame Alliance Players or Posters for the Story having Anduin, Jaina, Bolvar, and Tyrande being the chief NPCs for Horde Players. I understand that choice falls entirely on the Devs.
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Reminds me of their grand announcement about how they wanted everyone, “whether Alliance or Horde,” to see the cinematic with Anduin becoming the new king of Stormwind.
To be fair, though, some Horde players want to do something nice for the NEs to feel like they’ve made up in some way for Teldrassil, and some NE players want to see them do it for the same reason.
Oh, nonsense. All Blood Elves are not at fault for the theft of the Divine Bell any more than all Draenei are responsible for the actions of the Eredar.
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Because they (Blood Elves) know they are at fault for it happening in the first place, the same way Orcs are at fault for being put in internment camps(Although you still have some whining about it anyway).
Not all, just the one in charge of the Sunreavers, he’s the reason the purge happened, Garrosh to. That’s why it’d idiotic to say, “Lor’themar doesn’t hold it against the Alliance” because there’s nothing to hold against.
As for the Draenei, they literally separated themselves from the Eredar in name and considered their actions irredeemable and heinous while you still have Orcs praising people like doomhammer.
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First, it was not “the one in charge of the Sunreavers.” That’s Aethas. The one who is responsible is Fanlyr Silverthorn.
Second, the next step is that other Blood Elves, who are not Fanlyr Silverthorn, do not feel responsible for what Fanlyr Silverthorn did just because they happen to share a species. Hence the Draenei/Eredar comparison.
But if that’s too obscure, how about this: Humans don’t all feel responsible for what was done by Arthas.
Orcs should praise Doomhammer. He freed them from the blood curse helped them make a fresh start after the internment camps. Why should they not be grateful for that?
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That is a culture thing, to a larger degree. In RL we erect statues for lots of people who if you look at their lives were actually pretty horrific people, we just remember them for that one or two good things they did for us. Heck, my favorite example of that is that Vlad Tepes is still a national hero of Romania despite the fact he was a certifiable psychopathic tyrant who created what was recorded as a “forest of impaled people” to horrify the ottoman empire into leaving despite being massively larger.
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Thalen isn’t why the purge happened.
I wasn’t saying Elves ARE responsible, I’m saying Alliance AREN’T.
It’s idiotic when people say, “Tyrande trashes the Horde but Lor’themar doesn’t trash the Alliance, what gives” because the Horde are at fault for Teldrassil but the Alliance isn’t at fault for the Purge.
Only if Humans get to praise Daelin Proudmoore.
That’s Grommash Hellscream.
And that still makes him a better hero then Ogrim Doomhammer since Orcs were the invading force.
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From the Orcish perspective he began the steps that ultimately freed them from corruption by challenging and defeating Blackhand, and then destroying the black council. He then went on to mastermind the plan that resulted in the liberation of the orcs from their internment camps. The Amani pact he made created the early foundations of what would be the template Thrall would use when he formed the modern horde.
…also Daelin IS still a national hero to the Kul Tirans. He has statues and a memorial square, even.
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They already do that. There’s a bloody statue of him in Stormwind and Boralus.
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Womp womp
/10char
your homes where basically set on fire cause you where helping the people commiting genocide
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