I am a little confused by this. Why would a Troll look at the world like you do and why would he care about Night Elves? He most likley shouldn’t at all. This typical “good guy” doesn’t seem to fit to well. Doesn’t mean they are bad. But that’s my take.
I’m not a troll fan. I just play one because there’s no cool beastman mage option on the horde. I’d likely have been a tauren had the option been available.
Or was it? From Horde perspective many of those wagons were saved.
Violence and cruelty are exactly what alot of these hardcore Alliance fans want. They might see it as “vengeance and reoperations” but I don’t think they’d be satisfied with anything less than their own blue on red genocide.
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How is burning a caravan full of people a good thing for the alliance? People who weren’t even a part of the horde.
The alliance can only ever do bad against neutral races?
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There’s a long long walk between what we were given and another “blue- on- red genocide”. And most of the time it is simply a problem of presenting it well.
Night elves won in Darkshore? How did we win? Who lost? What happened? Why are we being shown it before beginning the next expansion and not when the WF happened? Did the Horde actually have losses or did they just run away when Sylvanas fled?
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And you have no idea how Ohh so tiring this is. I’m one of the few alliance side, honestly tired of playing the Pure as snow snowflake who can never do anything morally ambiguous.
Alliance side honestly needs more morally grey acts, stuff the Horde can justify as being evil from their perspective. But you’re right, the current team is never going to tarnish the alliances reputation. The alliance zealots would have a full mental break down if team blues reputation was slightly tarnished. They would loose any right to call for essentially the deletion of the horde from the game to satisfy their zealotry.
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It’d send a message to the Vulpera that they’d kill more Vulpera if they kept helping the Horde.
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“ah yes, the Alliance setting sentient beings on fire gleefully must be a glitch, and not an example of the Alliance’s longstanding history of wanton cruelty to races they deem inferior”
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Wagons and caravans could be rebuilt. The vulpera were clearly not deterred from helping the Horde after the Alliance torched their wagons. Killing them might have been an arguably more sound strategy…or made it worse, depending on how things turned out.
It’s how they made enemies of previously neutral races in the past and drove them to joining the Horde. Belves and goblins come to mind.
Yes and that’s a problem. Racism or mistrust are only alliance flaws when it involves pushing innocent people to the horde. It’s rarely directed towards the horde.
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It was originally the Horde’s “thing” to be accepting of outcasts, so I personally don’t think it’s a problem.
Overlooking the people committing genocide so the alliance can go terrorize neutrals seems like a problem.
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Having those people commit genocide for no reason is the problem
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I mean they’ve been racist against the native troll tribes sitting on lands the Alliance want, and it’s not until the Golden era of lore that the Alliance has been a happy family. The WC1-3 era alliance was extremely tenative and the sides/races didn’t care for eachother.
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Alliance was a lot more fun back in WC2 and 3 when most of them quit after the 2nd war because they wanted the orcs all put to death rather than having them interred. Then you had Daelin being Daelin and… yeah.
What happened to this Alliance? They keep attempting to wade back into those moral gray waters by introducing “Angry Varian” or “Angry Jaina” but the someone keeps losing their nerve and making them nice again. Tyrande will be no different.
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Personal theory: The metalhead nerds who were responsible for the story of the RTS games aged out or moved onto other projects, and mediocre fantasy writers took over and are dragging the setting into a painfully mediocre and generic place.
And yes. Tyrande will suffer zero consequences for the Night warrior transformation and will probably get a permanent powerup, as is the way of the Alliance.
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Maybe, but either they or their spiritual successors are clearly still around making things like Maldraxxus.
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oh no, no, I 100% get how obnoxious this is and what a disservice it does to Alliance as well as horde. I’ve said as much plenty.
But the point is, when your faction always wins, when its figures are always noble, even in the one time that one of them died in a cinematic cutscene, when the player character is always objectuvely the hero of the story, you can’t claim to be the “punching bag”
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No. They are all gone. All of them. What you see with Maldraxus wouldn’t have happen like that with the old ones. Because the Scourges architecture derived from the Nerubians. But here we are with this nonsense and new writers who don’t know what they are doing.
Wew boi this just hurt to read with all the back and forth on who’s war crimes trumped who’s, or that the horde are evil and should accept what is in fact horrible storytelling because reasons. Also I feel like any horde PC who did not play the pre patch of the WoTs is exempt from burning the tree but still suffer from remaining with the faction.
Also Syl managed to massively manipulate Saurfang into believing the alliance would attack, and a god war does mention stormheim all “ “The boy in Stormwind will not start a war tomorrow,” Saurfang said.
Her eyebrows lowered. “With Genn Greymane in his ear? We will see.”
That was a concern, Saurfang had to concede. In the thick of the fighting against the Burning Legion, Greymane had launched a mission to kill Sylvanas. It had gotten some of Stormwind’s few remaining airships destroyed.
There were whispers that Greymane had ordered the attack without Anduin’s permission, but as far as Saurfang knew, Greymane had not been punished. The implications of that were troubling, and every possible explanation led to same conclusion: the old worgen would always drive the Alliance toward war”
Not saying Teldrassyl was right, I hated every second of that as I knew I knew my orc would be treading old territory with MoP. But to crucify every horde player for playing the faction with the races they like for lore or aesthetic reasons is rather childish no?
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