you try to blame the horde for their actions with writter incompetency
okay then , fourth wall night elf player whinner
you see I can do it too
Yeah, at this point, I have no clue what you’re talking about. Except you’re in some insane rage over night elves existing.
But you do you I guess. I didn’t even mention blaming the Horde.
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I did the quest where you try to rescue people inside the tree, there was no army. just civilians and some town guards.
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yeah welp me neither about you , you are the one answering my comment to say nothing so I did the same for you , don’t come whinning because I said to you what you said to me
they are beyond stupid and incompetent then
The night elves not evacuating until the fire is going is just one issue. You also have the issue of alliance mages, the vindicaar, the Draenei on the next island over. There are lots of issues with bfa’s writing
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I looked for it, but can’t find something right now. But it was a topic that was brought up on the forums back then. After all some time has past since then. I almost think there was a statement in an interview or something about this.
I thought night elves were being evacuated ever since the war started, not just when the fire was going.
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The Night Elves were evacuating since Ashenvale fell, well before the Horde set fire to Teldrassil. They kept the portals open for days, swapping out mages, and they actually overwhelmed Stormwind momentarily, and spilled out of the city, all the way to Goldshire. And that’s after sending all the Gilneans through, first.
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They were being evacuated, but Darnassus was their capital probably a number unsustainable to send through portals.
Also, the major army were tricked into going into Silithus.
The resistance the horde found was local military alone.
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Given that the Horde faction isn’t going to be heralded as heroes any time soon. It comes with the package and the reinforcement of the Horde’s original intent. A band of people hated by all fronts. Of course interacting with the Alliance shouldn’t be a picnic.
The Horde and Alliance are enemies. Why should you give Tyrande any amount of respect when she’s led just as many fights against you?
To me, the difference is that at the start of WoW, most of the horde at the time was undeserving of any hate thrown at them for being monsters. The older orcs are one thing, but the younger ones, tauren, trolls and (before they started doing much) forsaken were hated more out of fear and misunderstanding because they looked like typical monster races.
I don’t think it works anymore because after Cata/MoP and now BFA, the horde EARNED the monster moniker purely due to their actions. There’s nothing to misunderstand anymore. 
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Now the Horde are left with a conflict of their own. Do they desire to shed this monstrous identity? Or will they embrace it and affirm themselves? They want to earn their claim to life but aren’t going to kowtow to Azeroth’s desires. There’s no going back on the troubles that been caused. The Alliance has the issue of sitting on their thumbs, which comes at the Horde’s benefit of not being wiped out.
I like this dichotomy as the Horde have various different views on how they wish to proceed. Some want a peaceful result, others simply don’t care how many bodies they leave behind. This desire of prosperity in the Horde has left room for abuse and great solutions. But I’m certain nobody would be pleased to need to work with the enemy faction leaders and be praised by someone who’d later want them dead.
It’s not that I don’t appreciate you finding a silver lining to this, but overall it’s not a story beat I’m enthusiastic about following anymore. Having the events of BFA saddled to the faction and my character history has permanently stained my enjoyment of it and I would have faction transferred by now if it wasn’t for the playerbase barrier kept in place.
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That’s the sad part. Because, regardless if the Ardenweald campaign or future patches settles the whole Teldrassil thing, people are still going to hang the whole Your side genocided a bunch of innocents forever over the hordes head.
It’s a stain that some people aren’t going to forget nor forgive
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Actually, whenever the Alliance breaks a treaty, a new treaty is created before there are consequences … or their actions or just ignored entirely. Like when Varian literally declared war on the Horde in WotLK, only for Garrosh to miraculously start the war in Cata. Because of a conveniently created treaty that occurred in between expansions. One that just ignored the trade embargo between the NEs and Horde that was causing a massive famine.
Or perhaps when Genn Greymane and Admiral Rogers attempted to assassinate the Horde’s new Warchief? Or when the Alliance attacked Horde civilians in SIlithus, for mining a resource the Alliance had no claim over? Or filling Orgrimmar so full of SI:7 civilians were literally tripping over them, to send the deliberate message “The Alliance is always watching”? No … it was Saurfang’s WoT that broke the Peace. Because … really shallow justifications mostly?
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Not so much. Its more Blizz did exactly what they wanted to do with the Horde, and got the exact ideal result from it. Now, the only way for the Horde to prove they’re “good” is to be completely subserviently and submissive to the Alliance. Either in the form of characters like Baine or Hamuul, who have just become accessories for Alliance characters. Or in the form of Calia, who is an Alliance character who will just be shoehorned into a Horde leadership role.
Blizz got exactly what it wanted. Use the Faction whatever way they desire, who cares about he consequences, because those consequences are now such that the only way the faction could ever hope to redeem itself … is to be a sidekick in the Alliance’s story into perpetuity. They’ve built a perfect guilt hook to make every expansion from now on Legion “Alliance and Friends”. We’re a bunch of weak, pathetic, vile monsters playing tagalong with virtue itself, the Alliance. 
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Which I personally find to be just as boring. What would you do that would allow the horde to least move to a place of The majority of the horde isn’t to blame story wise and amongst the extremists of the alliance playerbase?
Retcon Vol’Jin dying and then all of BfA, I’m asking for a lot here but it’s the only chance we got. Also need to find the writer who grew the mega hard on for Sylvanas and lock him in a deep dark hole in the ground. I know it won’t happen just simply pointing out how deep we are and that there isn’t much that can be do to fix the situation.
It irritates me so much how close they were to having the Horde perfect once they put Vol’Jin in charge, and then just threw it all away. Such a waste.
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Sure they can. Anyone would be angry if their homes and livelihoods got put to the torch no matter the reason behind it. It’s true they became military targets by supporting Horde with supply running but it’s still situation of “They’re burning our stuff!”
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