I’m not gatekeeping Forsaken character’s from being considered Dark Rangers, I’m saying that plain regular forsaken should not count as “a race with dark ranger options” to justify giving the Alliance two and the Horde one. We all know what is meant when we say “Dark Ranger options”–let’s not muddy the waters here.
Edit: Honestly, it’d probably be easier to just call them “Darkfallen” customizations given the fact that only elves can be Darkfallen.
Ah I see. I believe I agree with that… though I am tired so I could be reading poorly. lol
Really wish Blizzard had given the Nightborne the red eyes and skin tone too. Just feels lazy to not give them that option.
Its more accurate to the situation for sure… imo.
That’s really what gets me. If you really wanted to argue that Velves should be Dark Rangers because they fought in the 4th War and some might’ve be resurrected by Sylvanas, that’s fine. But that should also apply to Nightborne. Giving the option only to Velves between the two of the elven Allied Races just kind of tells me that they were only catering to a very specific subset of players (namely ones who were using the dark skin tones of Velves to replicate Dark Rangers before they were officially added as a customization option).
I mean, dracthyr use the human rig. There’s no reason we shouldn’t get Forsaken on a rig already available to us.
I mean it still is so odd to me that not only did they allow VEs to have their own theme, but the options to look like a Horde core race, while giving them another Horde group in Dark Rangers / Forsaken Elves, but somehow gave the Alliance 2 options of Hordes Forsaken Elf.
Like it doesn’t make sense from a fairness pov so any Alliance stuff seems at least pertinent to discuss in terms of we want that too then.
I mean, maybe consider that they don’t consider your rules relevant?
Consider for a moment that a lot of people who argue against high elves and void elves don’t consider Nightborne to be Night Elves at all. It’s just not a consideration.
So, also consider that Blizzard probably views Nightborne as Night Elves. Then a lot of your fairness considerations don’t particularly make sense. The Horde got an Alliance core race, with customization options that allow them basically look exactly the same.
Or, maybe they just don’t particularly care about fairness or equitty and they added dark rangers to the Alliance because some High Elf Dark Rangers returned to the Alliance. That’s a more story focused appeal.
But like I said, consider for a moment that your considerations of fairness may not really have any meaning to them, or also, your considerations of fairness might be seen as completely unfair because you don’t consider Nightborne at all. shrugs
Nightborne? If so they are not at all alike in their appearance
Fair enough but they never bloody told us that.
I will find it infuriating until they actually explain it
Yeah. Nightborne.
I’m gonna throw this same thought back at you again…
What if… Blizzard… thinks like I do and not like you do?
What if, Blizzard, thinks Nightborne are Night Elves?
Because Nightborne are Night Elves.
Well i mean they are edited models unlike blood elves to void elves
They share none of the customisation options unlike blood elves to void elves.
The lore says they have changed to look different. Unlike blood elves to new void elves.
If blizzard thinks its the same, then theyre delusional beyond belief
If you want to play a white haired, purple skinned, tall, majestic elf… well, either faction.
Do you honestly think that at all compares?
Because it really doesnt.
Honestly, yeah. The hypocrisy got called out ages ago. Now we’re where we’re at.
At least the Nightborne got the effort of new aesthetics and an altered stance. Void Elves couldn’t be bothered to get that much. Then again, even the Dracthyr are looking largely like a copy/paste at this point, as far as visage forms go.
Anyways, just to reiterate since it’s been a while, I’m a proponent of Nightborne getting Dark Ranger customizations. I’m also not a fan of the fact Void Elves got them, but it’s not the biggest tragedy in my book. Red eyes and pale skin both suit the void aesthetic well enough.
Personally i think nightborne are a million miles away from looking like night elves.
But everything else you said i agree on
Careful, I once got blasted for making such a claim. 
Why do you need to follow in someone’s footsteps? Be your own person. It’s a very rare treat in a Blizzard game when their race/class “fantasies” are afoot.
it’s weird how it went from “no fair we want something too” when it was gold eyes for blood elves, that dinosaur mount in Zuldazar, horses in BFA or straight backs for orcs but when Alliance get something where we don’t get an equivalent suddenly fairness doesn’t matter.
It comes down to basic common sense. The Shal’dorei lived in an isolated city while the Night Elves survived in the wild. Of course there will be significant body differences. They are both the same race in two different flavors and they should also have similar Night Elf skin colors available to them.
You are mixing things up again, do you need an actual timeline for what happened and where mistakes were made?
I mean, this is exactly what I’m talking about.
You don’t consider Nightborne to be Night Elves…
So then when people have this fairness conversation in here they’re like, “But the Alliance got something and the Horde didn’t.” And then surprised Pikachu face when Blizzard gives Void Elves things…
Probably gonna have more success if you acknowledge that Horde got Night Elves and enter it into your calculations. At least, maybe then you’ll be less confused.
Aww, look at all the Void Elf mains you triggered. XD
UPDATE: As of 8/16/22, NO RACES have Dark Ranger customization options.
We heard your feedback that it was unfair the Alliance got more Dark Ranger races than the Horde. We agree that was unfair, so we have deleted Dark Ranger customization from all races.