Twinks still a HUGE problem

You moved the goal posts. This was in response to ruining things for ALL levelers. I pointed out that ALL levelers don’t try to bg naked.

Getting gear is playing the game (and much of it is competitive now that stuff has been nerfed). I challenge you to try it. Or, just look up some of the gear, post nerf.

The typical twink -now- does not overgear other plays to the extreme that they used to. Now, it has more to do with broken class balance, certain levels having more powerful abilities that others don’t have yet, making premades, etc. which hasn’t changed even without twinks. An MM hunter, arcane mage, is still going to waste people, without twink gear.

Fair for everyone is excluding one group of people? Doesn’t sound very fair or reasonable to me, no.

That’s exactly the point. They’re just passing through. Temporary. But, they get to dictate how things work for everyone else.

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Where is this evidence?

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I have shown the difference between my toon and a twink a while ago. My leveling toon had more health even. The twink had slightly better stats. The big jump in stats, not health, came with gems which Blizzard could have just reduced the effectiveness.

Are you talking about me? If so…what on Earth are you talking about?

In the context of twinks, yes. The game isn’t balanced for low levels, nor should it be.

If you’re saying they don’t overgear, and instead it’s class balance, then they aren’t a twink, lol. :stuck_out_tongue: Don’t forget…every single game functions off of the rock-paper-scissors concepts. Certain classes will always dominate others, that’s just core to any class based game.

Sounds very fair to me…to not cater to a small percentage of the entire player base that strives to create incredibly unfair advantages against players that don’t have the same opportunity (again, because they will level out of the bracket). To be clear, tourists are fewer in population than locals…twinks are fewer in population than everyone else. So no, the minority shouldn’t dictate how things are. We get enough of that with the LGBQW4(batmansymbol)TYPS in real life, lol.

These players passing through make up a huge percentage of all the players. Why would a small percent of players, twinks, dictate how things should be? Especially when every non-twink despises the unfair advantages they create?

Then that wasn’t a twink. For instance, I’ve seen, over the last few days, a dozen hunters in the 111-119 bracket with 70-80k health, while every other player has around 40k, and the correctly geared (aka, having the gear you’d expect the average, typical player to have at that level) having maybe 50k (depending on class, locks ofc have more). You pick 1 “twink” that’s barely better than your supposed average geared toon. What about the actual twinks that are far superior in gear?

They all exist, because of this silly exploit. You all whine about not having huge advantages over typical players, lol. Something Blizzard already addressed and fixed. Go make a bug report or suggestion to Blizzard about letting iron-gloved boxers, aka twinks, compete against the rest. I promise you, it’ll fall on deaf ears because your opinions are out of focus. The devs have spoken, end of story.

I’m talking all low brackets but current content. 110+ has its own issues. And yes you called out twinks as not being skilled while you are here with a 1500 3s rating.

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My not playing arena has nothing to do with other peoples’ skill level. That’s a juvenile thing to say. The only arena I did was with a couple of friends, both of which also didn’t care about playing the arena, just to get the 10 caps. It was a joke more than anything, but I certainly don’t need to justify that to you.

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Yeah he did say that.

But you are the one calling out others.

Who did I call out? I feel like you’re having conversations with other people in the wrong thread. I’m “calling out” twinks in general, sure.

Yes my point. You talk about others skills while having no rating yourself.

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Oy vey…I made general statements about the type of person a twink would be. I didn’t specifically call out anyone. And again, read my post about my lack of rating if it’s that important to you.

You’re also clearly avoiding the main topic and points I made, and I think I know why.

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Yes you did. And you really have no grounds to stand on tbh.

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That’s the funny thing about forums…people come here to discuss topics, share their opinions, etc. If you disagree, wonderful for you. In my experience, and the experiences of people in this thread, the players have little skill (once the hunters, for instance, Double Tap Aimed Shot they were out of tricks).

In my opinion, in makes sense to assume the players that are working hard to create unfair advantages are trying to compensate for a lack of skill. For me, at least, it’s more fun if the game is competitive and challenging…if the game ends with a close score, if you have to work hard to secure the win. Twinks 1 shotting everyone is like using the rocket launcher cheats in Resident Evil…if you’ve done everything else, yea I guess you give it a try, but meh…

Doesn’t happen if you keep up with gear.

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We’re going in circles…just re-read some other posts for a response to that.

Idc what is said. I leveled through Bgs and faced twinks and there wasn’t one shots. They were more powerful to a point but definitely could be overcome by a good team.

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do I really need to dredge that old screenshot up again?

The one Welfare posted (think it was him?)

IMO stopping XP at any X9 and gearing reminds me of pre BG XP days. I would try to gear and look forward to playing as a X8/9, getting some gear from PvP and just enjoying PvP. I get stopping XP, running dungeons (pretty much the best gear now), and PvPing isn’t for everyone - but I also think those people might not enjoy vanilla character-building PvP.

Low level PvP is more of a balance issue on blizzard as previously stated (class/spec, gems) with the exception of AZ neck shenanigans at 110 being a bit of an abuse/overseight imo. I’m in the boat that blizzard should fix those problems rather than segregate the play base more. Especially since separating doesn’t fix class imbalance even if players are on a “even” playing field.

Also as a note - even at Max level PvP players try to create a gear difference to overcome skill levels. (2 equally skilled players means the more favored class/geared player wins).

Edit: Clarity

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1500 leveler got killed by a twink long ago and has held on to the butthurt. That’s all this screams to me…everyone say it together.

Git gud

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