Twinks ruin leveling. SERIOUSLY

[Bestdrood-illidan]

can any of you actually think of what is positive for the game and not just yourself?

[Hamstar-draktharon (Hamstar)]

i know that only twinks will comment on this thread, its how it always is, you are the only ones that care enough.

But you’re commenting… Error Error does not compute!

[Smadinker-moon-guard (Smadinker)]

I wasn’t going to log on tonight but I’m logging on tonight and gy camping some battlegrounds. OP, you pick, should I play 19’s, 39’s, or 59’s?

[Oäk-bloodhoof (Oäk)]

Sounds like a get good and get over it

[Fixher-darkspear (Fixher)]

You realizes that a win is 86K in exp up to level 60- 90. At 90-100 its 120k. that not bad exp. Lowers ones are funny and not consistent. But several wins knocks off a lot of hours from leveling.

[Velara-gilneas (Velara)]

twinks are nothing but an annoyance and hinderance to everybody just trying to level. their enjoyment shouldnt trump EVERYONE ELSES AND ACTUALLY IMPEDE PEOPLE PROGRESS TO END GAME. it takes 3-5 days played to get to max. is it acceptable to have every game of pvp you partake in those DAYS PLAYED OF TIME to be completely ruined or heavily influenced by just a few people per match(WHO STOPPED PROGRESS ON THAT CHARACTER JUST TO DO JUST THAT???)(you basically allow people to pretend they are gods because of how outrageously different the power levels are for twink vs nontwink.)?

Nonsense. Just play and don’t worry about anyone else. If you can’t manage WM turn it off. Between res time and repair costs that 30% really doesn’t pay.

Nothing anyone does in this game actually impairs or affects your ability to play.

[Therric-frostwolf (Therric)]

twinks are nothing but an annoyance and hinderance to everybody just trying to level. their enjoyment shouldnt trump EVERYONE ELSES AND ACTUALLY IMPEDE PEOPLE PROGRESS TO END GAME. it takes 3-5 days played to get to max. is it acceptable to have every game of pvp you partake in those DAYS PLAYED OF TIME to be completely ruined or heavily influenced by just a few people per match(WHO STOPPED PROGRESS ON THAT CHARACTER JUST TO DO JUST THAT???)(you basically allow people to pretend they are gods because of how outrageously different the power levels are for twink vs nontwink.)?

They used to only be able to queue with other XP off characters.

I don’t know why blizzard changed that.

[Duvainil-caelestrasz (Duvainil)]

what if im actually new the game and dont have gold? its a pretty big turn off… see i literally never see anybody new to this game, they are all old heads from at least cata. and you wonder why all they do is pump out mtx instead of good content? ITS BECAUSE THEY COULDNT RETAIN PLAYERS. AND THIS IS A BIG CAUSE! A LOT OF POEPLE LIKE PVP

people who like pvp…have to accept its rarely, if ever, fair. That delusion of fairness a new player needs to lose. fast.

Actually I will correct myself. There is one fair pvp game. Pong.

2 blocks each side of screen, equal lengths and such. PLayer 1 is literally no different from player 2. 1 dot/ball bounced between them. ready…fight!

[Yasudra-malorne (Yasudra)]

I’ve leveled MANY characters over the years and I’ve NEVER been annoyed or hindered by a twink.

[Velara-gilneas (Velara)]

twinks are nothing but an annoyance and hinderance to everybody just trying to level. their enjoyment shouldnt trump EVERYONE ELSES AND ACTUALLY IMPEDE PEOPLE PROGRESS TO END GAME. it takes 3-5 days played to get to max. is it acceptable to have every game of pvp you partake in those DAYS PLAYED OF TIME to be completely ruined or heavily influenced by just a few people per match(WHO STOPPED PROGRESS ON THAT CHARACTER JUST TO DO JUST THAT???)(you basically allow people to pretend they are gods because of how outrageously different the power levels are for twink vs nontwink.)?

They used to only be able to queue with other XP off characters.

I don’t know why blizzard changed that.

They changed it because the XPOFF queues weren’t moving.

[Billeh-barthilas]

i have no idea how you think you’re qualified to tell people to “learn to live with it” when you don’t PvP at all

To the OP, I completely agree. BGs are my favorite part of WoW and the fact I have to wait to end game to be able to have a good BG experience is completely bonkers because a bunch of scrubs who more than likely can’t cut it at high levels felt the need to completely tilt the balance of fights in their favour to the point where its unwinnable no matter how hard you outplay them

Getting graveyard camped at 112 isn’t fun when there is a group of people killing you and they’ve all got twice the HP of everyone in your factions team and do like x3 the damage.

[Billeh-barthilas]

you have 62 kills

[Kangmurloc-dark-iron]

Gearing in BFA is the most a balanced and accessible it has ever been for the lower brackets in WoW.

[Starbûck-caelestrasz (Starbûck)]

A twink and my very first pvp encounter is exactly the very reason what kindled my love for pvp, I was so determined to beat that person and future encounters, I leveled up, played the game, made gold, found knowledge, made my own twinks, and honestly, half the time my alts where just having some fun, only semi twinked.

Point is, twinking isn’t inherently bad.

Full heirloom gear and twinks will still destroy you.

No they won’t, twinking isn’t everything matey, git gud or go home.

[Greyhide-khadgar (Greyhide)]

OP, there has been a lot of discussion on this subject. The consensus is that the queues need to be split again. The quality of life for everybody was at it’s best when they were. Twinks got to play without levelers ruining their battlegrounds by doing non-value added things like taking objectives instead of trying to max out their HK count in the middle/graveyard. Levelers can enjoy their battlegrounds without people with glowing weapons with a names like “Expartgamer” from a guild with names like “Dun wurry we r pro” playing whack-a-mole in the graveyard.

There was a thread recently with a couple people and their multi-box alts rationalizing how there isn’t a problem and upvoting each other to give the illusion that there isn’t an issue.

[Steevoh-laughing-skull]

Quit whining.

[Yayayayayaya-area-52 (Yayayayayaya)]

Twinks have been around longer than you’ve been playing.

[Petrolsk-tichondrius (Petrolsk)]

why?? because they were actually in good matches with people of similar gear, so they stopped queueing…

Low hanging fruit, this is just not true, specifically your point getting paired with other twinks. The real numbers that actually mattered weren’t there to support these games CONSISENTLY which is what caused the die off. Today’s infrastructure was not in play back then. There were no “Communities” like we have now. Everything was guilds and battlegroup based. There was no Mercenary mode either. Everything had to line up perfectly for just one game to even happen, when 10 Alliance and 10 Horde queued at the same exact time on the same exact Battlegroup. Most brackets at the time, even the ones that had a lot of twinks in them (the lower level ones) barely scrapped together games CONSISENTLY, which is the key term here. You can’t survive long term if games only come together once a week, once a month at best, trying to schedule a pre-made around everyone’s schedules. It wasn’t realistically going to work.

[Petrolsk-tichondrius (Petrolsk)]

The consensus is that the queues need to be split again.

That is not the consensus, these blanket statements are just like Obama saying the science is settled, there is no argument here, you can’t deny climate change.

[Diro-stonemaul (Diro)]

twinks are nothing but an annoyance and hinderance to everybody just trying to level

Leveling in WoW is a single player experience. The build of another player’s character has absolutely ZERO effect on your ability to play the game enjoyably.