So everyone does the same damage as the dude in whites whining about getting farmed? I’ve got an idea, try advancing your character. Anyone can throw together a twink, maybe not a ridiculous one, but any who actually try can compete.
Blizzard should never have put XP in BGs. Problem solved. You go in there to battle other players, and learn to improve and progress your character to compete.
Nope, that’s why I said not as high
That is where the next pressure will be applied.
“Whites should be enough, combined with missing slots”.
Not hard to see it forming,
Sad part is, there’s a simple answer. Unfortunately, players are too lazy to compete, but have plenty of energy to cry when they get stomped. Doesn’t take a maxed out Twink to do the stomping either.
This is who the gaming industry decides to market for, by choice of course.
Yes I know, but they separated queues. I tried coming up with solutions other than separation, but in the end, Blizz does what they want.
Good to know! I was thinking about it and any way you slice it, the issue is still basically in blizzard’s lap. I think a better “fix” would’ve been to have templates/scaling for each bracket with regular evaluation/adjustment.
I am sure blizz did not take into consideration what certain bad apple types are now choosing to do (AFKing out), so unfortunately that’s created a new problem for them when they thought simply separating xpoff would solve everything.
IMO most of the twinks “outing” (?) themselves on the forums are showing everyone else why we should continue to generally dislike twinks as fairly malignant and spiteful kinds of players that regular folk would prefer not to play with or against. I see a few twink players trying to be positive and do the right thing, but their calls are getting drowned out by the actions of their anarchical peers.
The few twinks on the forums don’t represent all. We’re seeing some pettiness on the other side as well. Should we label all levelers?
They tried this before. This isn’t new. The reality is, they keep trying to fix the issue from the wrong end. WoW is about progression, and a lot of levelers are not trying to improve. BGs are competitive gameplay and didn’t award XP originally, just honor, which you used to buy pvp gear at all levels and improve your character.
They need to bring the floor up. BGs should require gear for success.
It isn’t a few. I see many… some of them posting on higher levels, of course…
I see many on both sides. It’s like it’s a hot debate.
They have done this for a long time (Back in the day) It’s not a big deal.
Well, what I’m curious about is: What is it about playing PvP at 120 they dislike enough to spend a decent chunk of time creating & playing twinks? Because I agree with you level 120 gearing is easy enough (for a main or two anyway) - and if they are skilled even with middling gear they should have oodles of fun running over people and enjoying the challenge of getting high ratings or whatever. Not to mention BG queues are shorter.
If these players are actually high-end raiders or spend a large amount of time doing mythics and rated content, I might buy that they twink mainly to take a break from the 120 grind… but, many of the twinks posting have strenuously complained blizz is taking from them “the only fun thing they have to do in the game.” So I still believe the majority of BfA’s twinks are the kinds of players who are not that great at max level PvP - or don’t want to make the effort - and much prefer the easier route of converting gold to make something overpowered, without the bother and time it takes to group and “do the work” at 120 for the corresponding highest max level gear power.
Maybe the Legion template system was better?
The best part of it for Twinks was being able to seamlessly queue, with everyone.
only if we can ban bad players from any bracket whatsoever as well
You’re not agreeing with me because I didn’t say that.
Staying generally competitive at 120 takes a few hours a week. Staying highly competitive, gear wise, requires devoting your life to mythic/mythic+ or rated PVP.
Twinks want to be highly competitive in gear, not just generally competitive. It takes much less time to do that for a twink than at 120. And once you do it as a twink, you’re done; at 120, you have to keep grinding gear from raids/M+/rated constantly, season after season.
Being able to finish gearing, and just use it, is the attraction. Having the freedom to put things on hold for an indefinite time, and being able to just pick up where you left off, without catching up on the gear grind. That’s the attraction. At 120, you have to be a world first guild ever to “finish” gearing and not have to grind for it, and even then you’ll need to start over in a few months. For everyone else, it’s not possible at all.
They’re definitely the kind of players that don’t want to put in the time and effort that Method does. But then, it’s hard to blame them for that, because hardly any players want to put in that amount of time and effort.
Right. Plus 1% added to versatility for every 10 ilvl above the baseline gave gear incentive. What’s the typical ilvl difference between a Twink 19 and a noob lvl 10? Well on second thought maybe that didn’t scale well in lower levels?
World of warcraft Wrath of Twinks. You won’t escape from getting destroyed lol, either gear up to compete or… keep getting destroyed xD
I’m reading each post one by one where Twinks are stating how large the twink community is and how strong the Twink community is. So whats the problem? Your large, strong, and heavily geared community have entire battlegrounds to yourselves now, why are you not pleased? You complain about the undergeared ruining matches, well now you dont have to deal with them. You say queue times will be long? You would think that your strong community would step up and start queueing more frequently now that the lazy levelers in whites wont be such a disappointment. Im serious, you are contradicting yourselves back and forth. Handle it.