Twinks are now just leaving BGs early

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Posted this in another thread but I’ll post it again here:

I think that’s the bst solution. Players can play with or against whoever they want, but for different rewards.

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I kind of get the argument, “Hey why don’t you put some decent-ish gear on.” I don’t disagree with that in general. But let’s say if I were to level a new toon from scratch, I’d throw on my heirlooms and either: 1) try to do available quests that’d give me something for empty slots or 2) check the AH for greens (since as a long time player I have the means). But as soon as I could get into BGs I’d be playing BGs as much as possible - assuming they were fun. I can see people doing this and sort of neglecting their non-heirloom slots after a while, but mostly because their leveling toon is a lesser priority, not because they’re actually OK with wearing really bad items. As interest sparks again, most people will assess and upgrade their lowbies’ gear to decent levels.

I guess what I’m trying to say is I think it’s probably exaggerated how many terribly-badly geared leveling toons there are in lower level BGs; and that being terribly-badly geared is not really the issue when it comes to facing twinks.

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Nah, my gear is the average levelers gear outside of experienced power levels and people that twink their characters like you do. Even less have the rings and most of the trinkets, legs and the guild ones none the less that require unlocking.

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I do too. But those actual brand new players are greatly outnumbered by alts who are also leveling, and to the actual brand new players, the alts in heirlooms are likely indistinguishable from twinks with respect to being better geared. Ultimately, the brand new players also get hurt by the longer queues, and I think that’s a bigger concern than any limited benefit from being grossly outgeared by slightly fewer people.

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If you make Kills give EXP farming Grave yards is what everyone will be doing.

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That’s already what twinks are doing, doesn’t have to be good xp; just enough to level them eventually.

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Yes, we do! I know you’re normal because you’re a ninja-back-bunkers pro. :grinning:

Though honestly I’m just trying to lure more good alliance into playing epics. :innocent:

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He’s saying that the people who level in battlegrounds will be farming graveyards instead of trying to win. That’s not a recipe for enjoyable battlegrounds.

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and as I said, if it’s not good xp then it would be worthless over trying to win; since if you’re farming a GY you can easily win.

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This is exactly what I did and I don’t think I’d asking too much. You’ll get more wins which lead to caches which contain gear rewards.

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I play 49s, heirlooms are two item levels below dungeon gear. Sockets would just be another twinking tool—something those who don’t twink would cite as reason why they can’t compete (rather than an opportunity to just put a gem in)

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Yeah but the whole reason why they separated the brackets is try to help them farming at low levels , With giving kills experience it gives incentives of what they tried to stop.

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Well I’ll be back to back capping bunkers and melting horde.

Soon.™️

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Nah, roughly 17-18 hours of effort here. 3 dungeons, all of westfall, part of redridge and duskwood, 4-5 bgs. I hit this level by doing that content and this is the gear I have from doing that. It’s literally the highest amount of effort I can give as a leveler to gain gear. Again, name calling isn’t going to get you anywhere and just makes me have to click a couple extra times every time you post.

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Not really since xp-off twinks are turning xp-on just to join bgs and leave before caps.

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Where did this happen?

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I replied to the post where you did so, and you’ve done so numerous times in replies to me or in someone elses reply to me in response to my posts.

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I only know one person who spent a lot of time leveling in battlegrounds. She was an enchanter, and all her heirlooms were always enchanted. I’m a jewelcrafter, and she was in my guild, so if her heirlooms had had sockets, I would have welcomed the chance to level old expansion Jewelcrafting and give her the gems. I think that would all add to the leveling experience, adding a little bit of meaning to old expansion crafting.

As for reducing the ilvl gap between heirlooms and dungeon drops from 2 to 1, every little bit helps. Dungeon drops would still be higher so they would not be meaningless, but heirlooms would be closer, reducing the gap to twinks.

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I do a bit of both. For instance I can’t stand Cata and MoP questing – it just rubs me the wrong way somehow – so I often get through a lot of those levels with BGs instead. Once I’m in WoD and BfA it’s back to quests again. I’ll also sometimes break up questing streaks with a few BGs.

But I’ll also sometimes sign onto a lowbie alt and queue a battleground for a change of pace. Sometimes it’s nice to not have to deal with DHs and DKs for example.

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I gather this means you condone and even encourage this behavior?