Twinks are now just leaving BGs early

[Kangmurloc-dark-iron]

I agree. Unfortunate behavior, but not likely to last long.

It will last until Classic.
I can personally guarantee this.

[Jugajr-emerald-dream (Jugajr)]

I think to a certain extent some people are conflating “twinking” with equipping heirloom gear. I do not. Heirloom gear is fine as most people wear some at lower levels, though I truly feel sorry for brand new players who essentially don’t have the means to get them. That said, I don’t believe there are many brand new players at all, which is not good; but I digress.

Yea, sucks for brand new players I do agree. But hey, we were all brand new at some point or another in this game. Brand new players have more problems than just gear since they are new to the game. Even an heirloomed player will have a big advantage over them. Still, not a good reason for people not to be ready for pvp if entering a BG, if even just to level. I’ve seen people in the 70s bracket with missing gear (trinkets) and heirlooms not upgraded past level 60. But, they get a pass because they aren’t twinks apparently.

[Radroit-anvilmar]

The Movement

Take yourself pretty seriously there, do ya?

[Kangmurloc-dark-iron]

Look at the thread. Day 2.
Whenever you break out of the Honor Level 1 bracket you can see for yourself.

[Drunkthot-illidan]

You could Exploit this method so easily.

[Locsu-hyjal]

This starting to sound like an addiction, anything for a fix, eh?
I’m beginning to think those that flooded the forum with tears about unsubbing, took the healthy route out.

[Tsataga-whisperwind (Tsataga)]

The Movement

Oh wow, how’d I miss this?

[Oxycyte-proudmoore]

I get people coming on here to complain about issues that are passionate to them, but why such hostility to people? It’s insane that people are this aggressive to others online like this. Be a human.

[Fræya-sargeras]

Another point is that these newly made f2p revenge twinks will only have any influence through lvls 20-29. F2p will be stuck in this bracket forever, so just level out of it We level so fast these days its really not an issue. Just avoid that bracket and they will have to fight each other all over again. Too funny.

[Jugajr-emerald-dream (Jugajr)]

I’m actually surprised that people think this is new. 19s/29s were always complained about when twinks were in their own queues.

[Kangmurloc-dark-iron]

Just avoid that bracket

Where have we seen this before?
Haha just wait till we see the complaint posts from higher brackets, so many better options.

[Irisse-maelstrom]

Or, you know, they could just merge the queues again.

You know by that response you are supporting the rewarding of bad behavior? Why would you do that?

I think merged queues are the right thing anyway, so I don’t see it as a reward. It’s better for both twinks and for people leveling in battlegrounds to have shorter queues. Based on checking the armories of twinks, I think twinks have about a 2x health and damage advantage on levelers using heirlooms, mostly from gems and enchants, which I don’t see as out of the realm of reason.

If a solution is needed, buffing heirlooms a bit - they could be 1 ilvl below dungeon drops instead of, I think, 2 ilvl currently - would be a better solution. Adding sockets to some or all of the standard heirlooms would also help. I don’t think it’s too much to ask for levelers to socket and gem their heirlooms if they want to be competitive in PVP.

To be honest I think most of the people complaining about twinks are not people who level in battlegrounds, but rather people who just do occasional battlegrounds. Those people could just as easily log onto their 120s when they feel like a battleground.

And let’s get this straight. I don’t agree with the OP that “twinks” should be banned from the BGs or whatever; but if it’s true that some “twinks” are disrupting with petty, trollish behavior such as intentionally AFKing out early, there should be an appropriate punishment given, not a reward.

It’s not “intentionally trollish”; it’s just the rational reaction to the incentives Blizzard has now put in place. The twinks don’t want to level out of the bracket, so they leave just before the end of the battleground to minimize their experience gain. If this is a problem, it’s because of the incentives Blizzard has set up, not because of purposeful nastiness on the part of the twinks. And again, the solution is to merge the queues and deal with the issue, if there’s an issue that needs to be dealt with, some other way.

TLDR: make heirlooms 1 ilvl below blue dungeon drops and add a socket to each one, and problem solved without having to use separate queues.

[Drunkthot-illidan]

What queues are insanely long now. How can you justify queues popping 8-10 min before patch ? To queues taking up to 2 hours only during peaks hours. 110 bracket. Also 110 bracket actually really likes when there is no people to stomp, would rather have everyone be geared.

[Jugajr-emerald-dream (Jugajr)]

TLDR: make heirlooms 1 ilvl below blue dungeon drops and add a socket to each one, and problem solved without having to use separate queues.

Good idea tbh

[Mcgowan-ravenholdt]

I have the perfect solution this this issue…

EVERYONE FIGHTS NAKED!

There. Now no one has ANYTHING to complain about.

But you know they still will.

[Tsataga-whisperwind (Tsataga)]

I’m down for this.

[Kangmurloc-dark-iron]

The water cooler poll was an easier route.

[Hushpup-moon-guard-116265]

Or, you know, they could just merge the queues again.

You know by that response you are supporting the rewarding of bad behavior? Why would you do that?

I think merged queues are the right thing anyway, so I don’t see it as a reward. It’s better for both twinks and for people leveling in battlegrounds to have shorter queues. Based on checking the armories of twinks, I think twinks have about a 2x health and damage advantage on levelers using heirlooms, mostly from gems and enchants, which I don’t see as out of the realm of reason.

If a solution is needed, buffing heirlooms a bit - they could be 1 ilvl below dungeon drops instead of, I think, 2 ilvl currently - would be a better solution. Adding sockets to some or all of the standard heirlooms would also help. I don’t think it’s too much to ask for levelers to socket and gem their heirlooms if they want to be competitive in PVP.

To be honest I think most of the people complaining about twinks are not people who level in battlegrounds, but rather people who just do occasional battlegrounds. Those people could just as easily log onto their 120s when they feel like a battleground.

And let’s get this straight. I don’t agree with the OP that “twinks” should be banned from the BGs or whatever; but if it’s true that some “twinks” are disrupting with petty, trollish behavior such as intentionally AFKing out early, there should be an appropriate punishment given, not a reward.

It’s not “intentionally trollish”; it’s just the rational reaction to the incentives Blizzard has now put in place. The twinks don’t want to level out of the bracket, so they leave just before the end of the battleground to minimize their experience gain. If this is a problem, it’s because of the incentives Blizzard has set up, not because of purposeful nastiness on the part of the twinks. And again, the solution is to merge the queues and deal with the issue, if there’s an issue that needs to be dealt with, some other way.

TLDR: make heirlooms 1 ilvl below blue dungeon drops and add a socket to each one, and problem solved without having to use separate queues.

Not really, since it doesn’t solve the average levelers gear.

[Anhyopr-blackrock]

Just make kills give XP.

[Jugajr-emerald-dream (Jugajr)]

the average levelers gear.

Are heirlooms. Not many brand new players around anymore.