id rather remove lazy players who cant keep their gear up to a minimum average level. if you’re using gear from 10 levels ago you don’t deserve to win. gear up or gtfo.
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People already participate in lower brackets, LOL!
OMG! That is not true most players have a full set of BOA and even enchant them, stop creating false narratives.
Right, so we benefit from scaling. With scaling in place, twinks have no advantage, so why not bring them back into the fold? Who’d be hurt?
They aren’t many in number, no. But I imagine that a small yet consistently active community per bracket would have more of an impact on queue times than you might think.
I don’t have any twinks but I’d like one. I’d like to have a character that I can gear once and not be burdened by patch cycle gear resets every few months like I am on my main. I don’t want a large stat advantage over levelers, or any advantage at all, but I’d still have fun with a twink.
Agreed. 
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ok ill bite. only if you’ll agree these same players keep using BoAs after level 49 and dont use any other method besides waiting for an upgrade from a bg drop.
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“But we just want easy wins with no effort at all then complain on the forums when we get smashed by those mean ole twinks who actually put effort and time into their characters, and we don’t want to actually play objectives!”
- Said every leveler ever, and are usually the ones who jenkins right into mid, die immediately, then scream at the healers, and continue to run straight into mid, die, and contribute exactly nothing to the BG.
I have found that 90% of my lost games, are not because of these magical twinks, but lack of teamwork and cooperation. Anyone who says twinks can’t be killed has never seen a twink get dog piled by the entire team lol.
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Hierlooms were originally designed to be obtained through hard earned Currency via PVE/PVP.
Now they are bought with Gold,
literally the most “least effort” pieces of gear in this Game.
Why should this be catered to?
That is how most people level, they also get upgrades thru quests and instances. On my alt. I personally leveled strictly thru BGs and had a blast, won some and lost some. With twinks it becomes not fun, if a twink is against you, you get gy camped. If twinks are in your team you don’t get to do anything cause they are one shooting players.
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A geared 60 is has much more impact on lower geared players than Twinks in lower brackets.
There is no scaling at end game.
It isn’t that people don’t put effort in their players, it is that most people are trying to get max level and want to every now and then que bgs and have fun. Stop making it sound like someone leveling is being lazy.
But at 60 you have the option to get better gear! I don’t know how many people it takes to explain this to you all, you all just don’t get it.
You want the value menu, but others have cooked some gourmet stuff.
What a horrible analogy, that made absolutely no sense. It is almost as bad as your puppet comment a week ago.
only using the lfg tool to level 10-60 in pve/pvp is pretty much the definition of lazy. no effort on crafting useful things like potions or engineering. skipping every other expansions content while clicking join bg is about as lazy as it gets.
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As much as I disagree with characters being linked in threads, you can see that smart players partake in gearing up.
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you have the same option at every level.
stupid is as stupid does.
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Find me something lazier.
There’s paying for a max level and leveling by questing is really easy it’s just tedious. How is being pulled through instances by high level characters to participate in unchallenging content because you out gear everyone considered industrious?
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I literally described how I can gear a toon in any bracket to near-twink level in under 7 hours. Yea, it’s laziness.
A lack of understanding on how to get gear is not the same as gear not being accessible to you.
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thats not really how it works anymore. instances scale to each person’s level.the exception is the new/old expansion overlap level 50. we used to do exactly that. getting carried through pve(sm library for ring farming or revlosh for gloves)or having someone kill the mobs for a “red” quest while im a ghost to minimize xp gains. now if we want higher ilevel gear we have to finish chain quests in hopes the item we want procs epic. everyone can make gear. if not you can certainly collect the mats to have them made. auction house can be used by everyone. engineering can be learned by everyone. its a choice to not put any effort into gearing just like its a choice for me if i want to lock my xp and regear my leveling toons every 10 levels.