No, you’re conflating. Turtle is used before (turtle is the dfa here) evisc.
Not if it’s connecting, no.
Again, the most visually obvious example was probably pressing Condemn with Death Sentence and charging to the target, where the Hunter turtled but as their input was late it’d give the impression that they “died through” it.
Even if it’s connecting sometimes.
Why you doing this to yourself
Procrastinating getting something useful done.
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no you can’t, no they aren’t, and no it is not, respectively. you are incorrect about all of this
the problem with your example is that dfa is an ability like charge where the damage is based on the travel time of the body delivering the attack when it hits. that is unrelated to turtle, entirely
If they aren’t, then there is no way that this can also be true:
Just like dfa is based on the travel time of the body, turtle is based on the activation time of the animation. If you cast something faster than the animation, you have some wiggle room for it to go off before the animation is done. Just like your evisc will go off during the animation of a dfa and kill the rogue instead of its dfa hitting you even though it was cast first and you’re both in melee.
No, it’s based on whether or not it was activated prior, which it wasn’t if the ability hit you. The “exceptions” are merely perception (or lack thereof).
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Not the case
Absolutely the case. Whether or not it feels intuitive or whatever is another matter.
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i can’t imagine where you got that misconception. no, only some abilities have the moment that their damage applies dictated by travel time, but whether or not an ability will land is calculated when it’s fired, not when it lands.
I wonder how long they’ve been thinking that their ability is bugged/delayed.
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273 replies because someone didnt hit turtle fast enough and blames the game lol
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You can test this. Duel a hunter, hold a global for turtle. Be in melee range. Press bolt instantly when the lossa lady says aspect of the turtle. Lossa lady cannot preempt someone elses button press. Do it several times. I guarantee you that you’ll see stunned hunter in turtle at least once.
Yeah, because the bolt was mid-air and used before the Hunter had pressed Turtle. 
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You’re not pressing bolt until you hear turtle over lossa. Lossa doesn’t tell you turtle until it reads the ability in game log. Bolt is in flight for the animation of turtle, not the cast of turtle.
if you were right it would be every time
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It can be every time if you time it properly.
you are using an invalid definition for “time it properly”
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If you are using an audio or visual indicator to press an ability based off of when something else is cast, there is no way that whatever you’re using is indicating it to you before the other button was pressed. That’s why you’re setting up the test in melee range and not using globals until you hear it. Your finger is on storm bolt, you’re pressing the button when you hear the lady start to say words because you have set the test up such that the other person is just pressing turtle.