Trust Level Transparency

So you admit to disagreeing with something you don’t actually have any knowledge about. I.e. you disagree with something you have no way of knowing you disagree or agree with. Ok…

The only one doing any digging here appears to be you, with your head in the sand. Nothing about that first video has been disproven as yet, so your claim is also incorrect. Just because it hasn’t happened yet doesn’t mean that it won’t. That’s kind of the point.

Now don’t get me wrong, all youtube news vids are sensationalist in some form or another. That’s the whole point of the ad revenue based economy we have. You may or may not have realised this, but all purported news organsiations suffer from this malady.

But here’s ars talking about some of it. But note it’s an article from the beginning of the year and is thus not as up to date as the videos I linked:

The article doesn’t say anything about Mozilla leaving the browser game so it’s definitely less sensationalist, but it isn’t exactly a positive outlook for Mozilla either:

The TechCrunch report interprets the memo, saying, “It now looks like Mozilla may refocus on Firefox once more,” but the memo does not give an affirmative statement on “Firefox the browser” being important or seeing additional investments. In 2020, the company had another round of layoffs and said it wanted to “refocus the Firefox organization on core browser growth,” but nothing seems to have come of that. Firefox’s market share is about 3 percent of all browsers, and that number goes down every year.

At the end of the day, Mozilla themselves set out of 25 year roadmap that doesn’t include Firefox…

Opera GX is a skinned version of the blink web engine that chrome uses.

There are only 3 web browser engine if you look past branding and skinning:

  • Gecko/Mozilla (firefox)
  • Webkit (Safari)
  • Blink (Chrome/Opera GX), is a fork of webkit.

You have outliers like servo that is still in development hell. Or Microsoft’s former engine they discontinued.

Also fun fact, opera used to use its own web engine until about a decade ago. It switched to google chrome’s after abandoning its own.

Same for Internet Explorer:
Internet Explorer used to use its own web engine until they also gave up and switched to google chrome’s own.

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GX is a bit more than a skin, but yes.

It’s a lot less likely to be an issue for the average user as resource usage goes.

Agree. My opinion you should only lose tl3 after you get it, is for forum infractions, suspensions, etc. Never lost it for that reason, but did lose it, because of inactivity. Took a break from all things related to this game for a month or two last year and had to start from scratch lol when I came back.

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Trust levels should be based on behaviour alone, not reading counts that are super easy to achieve with click scrolling.

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Next question. What is the benefit of using the GX version of Opera vs the Standard version. I only really play a few main games. Steam and Blizzard. My streams are usually youtube, some Twitch. I keep discord up although switching to it all the time in a PITA. I don’t do public social media.

Sorry for questions. I realize I could take hours to dig through it, but you are…right here to ask.

I think they want it to be for the most active users, and the only metrics they have for activity are days visited and posts read. If they went to behavior alone that would require some changes - like starting everyone at TL 3 which is a really bad idea. People link things they really really should not. That is the primary goal of the gating. To prevent misuse of the link ability.

The older Blizz forums had zero link options except internal Blizzard websites. We could link to the support articles, news posts, and forum posts. That was it. Only blues could link outside the Blizz site. So the current version is an upgrade in a way, but as you said, the TL3 falling off again after being earned rather sucks.

thats from…checks notes…10 months ago. mozilla is still doing fine. for someone that seemingly wants them to succeed you sure seem to be all doom and gloom.

Opera by itself is a basic browser, like Chrome with functionality. GX, however, is fully customizable, changes colors based on the game I am playing, or my mood, with the click of a button. You can also mute the tab, instead of the site. So if you lurk on Twitch, but mute the stream, they get no credit for you lurking. However, muting the tab leaves the volume wide open and confuses Twitch. It also has integration options and quick buttons for all social media, and games played, and mousing over the tab tells you if there is anything new.

It also unfairly punishes well behaved members. If a TL2 user makes troll topics and gets them removed on a regular basis, but not often enough for a ban, they really don’t lose anything. A TL3 user, who has a proven record of good behaviour and positive contributions who gets 5 posts removed, which can happen quite easily, loses all TL3 privileges, and is cut off from the lounge for six months. Hardly seems fair.

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Hmmm… this all tempts me to try it out. I assume bookmarks can be migrated. I see it does. Well then… I can always delete it if I hate it.

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It’s rooted in Chrome and I brought all of my Bookmarks and PWs over from Chrome.

Only way you can on desktop is if you paste and mash post before it embeds in the preview box.

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I don’t save passwords in browsers and I primarily use FF with Ublock origin and no script + malwarebytes.

I click very few things… heh.

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I don’t know why we’re talking about browsers but I’d really like more options that aren’t based on Chromium.

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i dont either its sutpid to save them

Unless you have a Master’s Degree in ISS and know what you are doing… this is why they made LastPass for regular folks.

theres nothing wrong with not saving ur passwords to google masters degree in ISS or not desnt matter

Never said their was. People should do what makes them comfortable. Also no reason to call people who do it stupid. Some of us can do it without jeopardy.

Honestly in today’s world unless you’re in the habit of visiting shady websites and constantly clicking on stuff you really shouldn’t be, I feel like the bigger threat is large companies suffering data breaches rather than somebody getting access to any stored passwords.

Which isn’t something you can do anything about beyond “keep an eye on it and change your passwords as needed”.

Granted, I still don’t save passwords for the really important stuff.

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