Transfer toon to older expansion

jokes on you i haven’t pvped at 60 on this toon. the max gear anyone can get at 60 on sl account is from sl raids. 280ish which i have no problem running raids for every week. its literally impossible to get 380 ilvl pieces on a sl capped account. maybe read what the issue is before kneejerk responding?

post deleted by author that’s what i thought.

well obviously you can, and always have been able to. Maybe they need to correct that article. Pretty sure you can even transfer an evoker to an account without dragonflight, you just cant play it.

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“Updated: one week ago”

The support article clearly states their intent, and they’re not changing their mind I don’t think.

Perhaps they have a bug which fails to enforce it at this time, which is a good thing we’re talking about it in Bug Reports.

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of course you feel it’s fine. you’re one of the bads using this method to gear 60’s then transfer to sl account. why don’t you use those toons as your avatar so we can see the leet gearz mya?

Ok, so, the problem has been in the game since LEGION. Despite what the rules say about: You cannot transfer a character from an account with the latest expansion to an account without the expansion

Whats worse is that Blizzard has made ZERO effort over the years to fix this bug, and would rather all of us players ignore it. Its so bad, that despite this being CLEARLY listed as being against the rules, people have posted guides on how to do it, here on the forums.

IMO, what makes this really bad is that-- even if you don’t consider it an exploit-- it IS pay-to-win at a minimum, because you are buying a SECOND WoW account, upgrading it to DF, xfering your toon to that acc, getting your level 70 == gear, and THEN you are transfering your toon back to a SL-locked account so you can stay in the level 60 bracket.

And before anyone suggests this is twinking-- No, twinking is min-maxing within the rules of the game. THIS is straight up BUYING POWER.

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So people are just not buying the expansion and can queue pvp with levelers without gaining exp?
They should just be in the exp off bracket of their own, no?

EDIT: nvm, looked at some of your profiles… so you guys are destroying levelers in bgs with now unattainable season 4 SL gear and now you’re upset that someone else has found a way to get better gear than you.

pot, meet kettle.

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So, the game doesn’t count 60 as a twink bracket. You cannot turn off exp AT ALL. But ofc, if you dont buy DF, then you cant leave SL.

Thing is, the ilvl cap for SL gear is 311, and that’s assuming you reached the top pvp rank of duelist or you were a mythic raider… DF gear on the other hand is easily obtainable at ilvl 350.

EDIT: The big difference there is that my gear was obtained through skill, and is limited to what is allowed within the scope of the game. I didn’t break the rules, nor did I spend real $$ to gain an advantage.

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Well another solution would be to just have all gear scaled down. I did a 60 BG on my 70 and it scaled down to ilvl 184 or something.

That would make it fair for everyone including people that are new/returning after SL. But again, I assume you are not interested in making things fair unless you are the one who is disadvantaged.

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The solution is to have a consistent set of rules that everyone has to follow-- which I think is what you mean by “fair.” And I would agree with that, and further add, that said rules should be enforced, especially when Blizzard officially posts them.

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Well a consistent rule is that when EXP is disabled at any level, you are queued in a separate BG bracket from people that are leveling. You have found a way around this rule which, obviously, you are OK with.

If you want all the rules enforced, ensure you understand the consequences.

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There are no rules forcing anyone to buy anything from Blizzard. Yes, it should go without saying that, I am in favor of all posted rules being enforced.

The rules are the ToS. A support article aren’t rules for players to follow.

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I’m also not a fan of sock puppeting and/or semantics.

“Character Transfer Information and Restrictions” is the name of the article. Restriction is defined as: an official rule that limits what you can do or that limits the amount or size of something.

Maybe you missed the last 4 words.

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I don’t mind the trolling, because it does add more to the post count, and as a result increases the odds more people will see this thread.

You’re playing semantics. Ignoring the fact that a restriction is a rule-- by definition. Just because Blizzard has failed to enforce it, does not change the fact that they posted it.

I don’t think anyone mentioned anything about this.

You do not gain EXP and are able to queue with people that are gaining EXP.

  • Players with experience gains turned off who compete in Battlegrounds will face off only against other players with experience gains turned off.

You have found a way to circumvent this.
I guess your argument is that you never spoke to an NPC and turned exp off, right?

Actually, it seems you are.

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When you try to argue rules and restrictions aren’t the same thing, I don’t mind pointing you toward a dictionary to demonstrate you are wrong by definition of the word.

Firstly, it isn’t a matter of “my” argument. This is a bug report forum. There shouldn’t even be an argument when someone points out that things are not working as Blizzard indicates they should. (link = Classic Guidelines, but I imagine they are the same here too)

Secondly, min-maxing within the rules of the game, is just that… There is no loop-hole there, there is no circumventing anything, and its the exact same concept as when I was a CE raider at end-game. By contrast, paying to win– especially when Blizzard indicates you shouldn’t be able to– violates that entire principle.

Well, good luck with your quest. Hopefully they fix the ‘exploit’ that gives others an advantage over you and ignore the one that gives you an advantage over others.

But based on

it seems like this has been going for a long time and they probably have bigger fish to fry than a few unhappy twinks.

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Thanks for the well wishes, and hopefully you helped to bring some attention to the issue. Sleep well, Myanee. :smiley:

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the link at the end of the bfa article to hacks at blizz is probably the most direct way of contacting someone who can make a difference. in game report feature is a joke unless they say bad words.