Toxicity in M+ (or lack thereof in my case)

[Abombination-kurinnaxx]

@Nastalade-scarlet-crusade

So, you don’t want any sort of a challenge at all?

I literally have a M+ is NOT content the problem with modern WoW Mega thread that is heavily upvoted. What I want is a good game again and that doesn’t involve us doing M+ which is boring stale D3 rifts. It’s not good or innovative game play. It’s lazy design. If you enjoy it cool.

M+ is NOT content! The problem with modern WoW

I made this post awhile ago and it was heavily upvoted and wanted to address the elephant in the room in terms of “what is and is not content” and the direction of the game. The problem with Modern WoW is it’s a hamster wheel, instead of a wonderful journey. I can’t stress this enough, doing something over and over IS NOT CONTENT! M+ or daily’s aren’t content! Farming for resources is not content! When you break down actual content in 9.1 there is about 12 hours worth if that. Now if you …

I don’t see M+ as a place to challenge myself, I see it as a toxic feature that this game got lost in ruining it’s soul.

Just have a Valor vendor where everyone can take their valor and buy BiS gear. You know like we used too. Remove the toxic great vault which is just a weekly chore list of things players don’t want to do. Remove the RNG. Make the game feel good again.

@Margirita-perenolde

The Torgast entry system instead

Torghast is the same as 5 mask Visions from BFA and should reward Heroic Raid level gear for Adamant vaults. So people have another way to gear and it makes Torghast be in line with 9.1 theme if it rewards Domination gear/shards. Just like BFA Visions rewarded corruption.