The game will be more likely to be a success if the community is less toxic and people feel like they can just open it up without worrying about having to deal with jerks constantly. I’ve met a lot of people that have left retail WoW because the community is awful and other games, hell even other MMOs have better communities. Policing the community is only more likely for the game to be a success, you have it backwards. Why would you want the community to suck? Do you not think that would drive people away?
I don’t know if most people don’t know this, but that video was planned and everyone in it knew that he was going to “ninja pull” beforehand. Kind of some lesser known trivia about it. Not really “toxic” if everyone in the raid knew what was going to happen beforehand and was fine with it.
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Hopefully the toxic players from 15 years ago that are coming back to play Classic have grown up and matured… one can hope…
That was actually a staged recreation of a real event. Leeroy DID actually do that to them, but they found it so hilarious that they re-enacted it for the luls
Look at the posters on these very forums, on reddit, and in the discords…
Your hope is unfounded. There are way too many “toxic” and jerk-like people in this very thread attacking everything someone posts.
They say “We’re just passionate!” No. You’re toxic and are acting like jerks.
Classic’s community is already terrible.
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The beauty of vanilla is that the community police’s itself. Servers have community’s and everyone knows each other. Toxic players have a hard time getting guilds. people who ninja or leave groups early don’t get a reinvite. That’s a good thing.
Plus the culture around vanilla is a lot better. You’ll be walking or leveling and people will literally toss you buffs. You’ll be getting ganked and your faction will help you out. You’ll do a dungeon and ask “hey can we do this optional wing for my quest?” and 9/10 your group will be more than happy to help you.
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I’m not gonna lie and say my experience hasn’t been the same. But I’ve also fortunately met some really nice people in the Classic community because I had the privilege to be invited to play the beta. And I’ve had some really friendly experiences with a few people on these forums. So yeah I’m kind of not as optimistic about the community like you, but I think there’s still bound to be at least a few glimmers of hope within it and the game is genuinely really fun to play so I’m not willing to give up on it yet.
I just really really hope peoples’ poor experiences with the community don’t drive them away. I really want a thriving and active Classic community. Don’t ruin it for us guys, please! We’ve been waiting so long for this!
This guy has no idea what he is talking about. Especially with the sizes of the servers in Classic. They won’t be Vanilla-realm sizes.
Blacklists never worked as well as the rose-colored glasses crowd likes to try to make you think they did. Jerks still got groups. Especially if they were a healer, tank, or DPS with CC.
It won’t be much different than retail with the realm sizes Blizz has talked about.
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That was definitely my experience in the beta, I will give you that. I hope it is actually like that when Classic is released.
Maybe they’ll get Classic BfA and Legion servers in 15 years. 
This. Compared to the community in a certain space MMO I play, WoW’s community actually seems fairly collegial.
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W-what are you doing here! I defeated you in the Battle fo Dazar’Alor!
And to the outside world watching the vid on Youtube they wouldn’t care that it was planned. The comments would all be about “how screwed up that is to wipe the raid and then talk about having chicken”, that would then spill over into the /1 in Org and Stormwind with people sniping at each other. So yes today that would be considered “toxic”, back then people argued over it and moved on.
It will. There have already been people that have said they were originally going to play Classic, but left because they were treated so badly by the vaunted “Classic community”.
It’s sad how bad people here are, really.
You’re just a glass half empty. There’s a lot more friendly positive players than negative ones.
“I can’t wait for Classic, dude!”
“Why do you want to play? WoW is fine as it is now.”
“Because I had fun with it. Are you having fun with WoW as it is now?”
“Yes I am. I love current WoW. Retail is a great experience.”
“Would you ever want to play current WoW in the future?”
“…” internet dial up sound followed by head exploding
I am older than your average player and quit the game in 2010 having played since 2005. Number one player complaint in 2010: The game is too hard for the average player.
Newer players are going to find out just how important a guild is when classic gets going.
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That was definitely true in the beta, but if these forums are what I have to judge what the Classic community will be like on release, I’m not too sure about that.
I guess we will have to wait and see. I think we can all agree that we hope the community isn’t awful and drives people away, though. And I think it’s certainly not a bad idea for Blizzard to be on the ball about keeping out really toxic people like they do in their other games, like Overwatch. There’s lots of options to report people in that game, and when I do I get a notification when they’ve had action taken against them, and I can block them and avoid playing with them. I don’t think Blizzard would add stuff like that to Classic because #nochanges but I hope they at least are on the ball about the report system.
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To be honest in a few months or so most good warriors and healers will run their own pugs. So long as you have a solid base it doesn’t really matter who else comes. They will run MC just for cores, ingots, bindings, and reserve stuff. Your average no guild player can easily tag along and get some easy loot.
Guilds are important but not required.
when I used to play league every other game would be some reiteration of “kys” and family comments.