They are a contrarian. A week ago they were calling people simps for supporting SL and blizzard. Just put them on ignore.
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Again, how is the system not balanced when both casuals and hardcore players get compensated for their time via Lower/Higher levels? Torghast is also 100% optional content, players forget that as well.
And again - props on the white knight trolling. Seriously, who is paying you to defend this garbage? I suppose you have some numbers to make up about that too though
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Folks repeat this without understand the logic behind the system, this is simply the player’s fault and not the fault of the system at hand. If folks stopped assuming everyone who disagrees with them is a troll, maybe they might be able to appreciate how fair and balanced Torghast truly is for a wide majority of the audience!
What is hilarious is watching all of you people use the word 'design" in the completely wrong context. There is NOTHING wrong with the actual DESIGN of Torghast - the design is beautiful! It has outstanding artwork and the floors are very easy to navigate.
What you folks are talking about is the SYSTEM that is IN Torghast - NOT the actual DESIGN of Torghast.
Try using the correct words to make your argument…otherwise, they just appear to be crybaby rants.
PREACH! 
See my reply in this topic. They are just doing it to get people to reply and get a reaction. Ignore them and let them talk to themselves in a vacuum.
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LOL - ya, ignore US so that YOU can talk to yourselves in an echo chamber of confirmation bias! LOL!!!
Pathetic!
https://www.cgspectrum.com/blog/what-is-game-design
What is game design?
Game design sits under the broader field of video game development and refers to the use of creativity and design to develop a game for entertainment or educational purposes. It involves creating compelling stories, characters, goals, rules and challenges that drive interactions with other characters, users or objects.
https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/us/definition/english/pedantry#:~:text=pedantry-,noun,the%20Oxford%20Advanced%20American%20Dictionary
ped·ant·ry
/ˈped(ə)ntrē/
noun
- excessive concern with minor details and rules.
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Ignore the Anti-WoW Hate Mob, they are simply false flaggers and harassers simply because not everyone will mindlessly hate the game with them. Currently, the game is in the best state it’s ever been in and a lot of folks are absolutely loving this expansion!
Ohh at first i actually listened to them and their opinion and im all for people liking SL and Torghast. I actually like SL and don’t hate Torghast. But if you look back about a week ago, they were calling people simps for liking SL. At this point they are just trolling for reactions. I’m all for different opinions and what people like and dislike, but this person is just fishing for reactions.
I actually do really like this expansion, a lot. It’s the most fun I’ve had in WoW in a decade.
I still don’t like the changes being made to Torghast. These two things are not mutually exclusive, friend-o.
Sorry - your quote has NOTHING to do with the “design” of Torghast - and , yes, you are definitely PEDANTIC.
This is the problem with folks who lack any proper counter argument or valid discussion point, they resort to digging into post history and trying to discredit everything that doesn’t fit their Anti-WoW Hate Narrative. I stand by what I said then, I stand by what I said now. Where in my post is there ANYTHING trolling or incorrect:
Lol, what?
You seem to think “design” is an inappropriate term when discussing Torghast, because you pretty clearly wanted to attribute “design” to meaning art and layout. I’m just showing you that, you know, “game design” clearly encompasses many things (“It involves creating compelling stories, characters, goals, rules and challenges that drive interactions with other characters, users or objects.”) and obviously everyone in this thread knows exactly what OP meant by that word choice.
So, thanks for being pedantic and trying to vocab-shame someone, but the English major is gonna have you beat every time, babe. 
Sorry, only in YOUR mind does the sanctimonious “English major” win every time. Wow, you are just a little bit on the egotistical side, eh? And the fact that you agree with your own opinion does not make it valid.
Regardless, the “design” is fine. The SYSTEM that is implemented in that “design” may need to be tweaked to appease the crybabies, but the actual “design” is fine. Even in the wrong context the DESIGN is still fine.
And, btw , what kind of English major worth their own salt would use a juvenile phrase like “vocab-shame”. LOL! Pathetic.
No, but that’s why we quote sources describing things like “What is game design?” to back up our claims and provide context as to why, colloquially, these terms are perfectly acceptable in casual use.
One communicating casually through an online medium. You’re wound up extra tight today, eh?
Bruh, I’m with you Tupac. All these salty bois want the crud(bad word substitute) handed to em. I’m loving it. The try-hard min/maxers in my friend group are so frustrated like these salty dogs on here. But running with 1-2 other buddies has been an absolute blast. I like content that stumps me to give me something to gear up for. I don’t understand their desire for challenges, yet complain with it’s “too challenging” lol, go do a lower level and go get more gear. The game has always been a grind, why would this be any different?!
I’m glad you’re able to see the genius design behind Ion and the Dev team’s Torghast. Many folks simply do not want to face the challenge, and thats OK because there is lower tiers for them!
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I do think that torghast runs/layers should be added to the weekly vault rewards though to give guaranteed weekly drops for those that run it to help gear up. That’s doesn’t seem unreasonable to me.