Today is the fourth day in a row I've not been able to get a key off the ground

I honestly think people who like mythics don’t know what they want and we shouldn’t listen to them. Look what they have turned mythics into. It’s such a toxic part of the game that the vast majority of people don’t even play it.

Bliz needs to remove nerfing of end-of-dungeon rewards for failing to beat the timer. It drops down to veteran gear and you lose crests at some point over the timer, even in like +7 keys i think.

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This season is punishing and unrewarding, so I won’t be participating much. Even +5’s feel terrible. My group hit 2800-3000 rating each season of DF.

if only i had a quarter every time someone mentions the death of wow

Could be a lot of folks are taking a little break and trying the new Diablo 4 expansion

It hasn’t even been 2 months yet and TWW is already in the bin

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Blizzard is trying to raise the average skill level of the player base.

Just like the last time I was in Grim Batol.

That is not their job at all, they only need show the steps, its up to people to reach higher.

The game is harder right now, so rating inflation is going to be lower. If you are typically a 2400~ player, due to gearing changes, dungeon difficulty being higher, etc, you’ll be a lower rated player unless you improve.

I’m not a fan of it but it is what it is atm.

whats hard is you are just another dps. Tanks and Healers atm usually run with their own groups and there just isnt that many pugging and they will all be looking for that sweet spot dungeon run that drops something useful.

Id highly recommend joining a guild and making some regular mates that push keys and you gel with.

Maybe you should ask yourself if chasing that gear is worth it. You have plenty enough ilvl to do anything in the game yet you seem to want more for some reason, even if you have to torture yourself to do it.

Mythic plus was originally intended to be done with set groups, not pugged. If you wanted to skip the need to find people to play with you have to put up with the pug scene. All you need to do is join an active mythic plus community or large guild but no you want to pug because it is easier for you up to now anyway.

Irrelevant, I think, to their end goals, it’s important to make sure everyone is having fun. Moving the bar to the left to “re-base” the skill required for and game is probably too painful an undertaking, but I also highly doubt they’ve done this in ignorance of what the fallout would be.

I think they full expect everyone to swap over to delves as their endgame and just recreate the gear divide between “mythic raiders” and everyone else. M+ was too popular to kill outright, so you make sure 3k players can’t easily get mythic gear. It’s quite possible to improve enough to go further, but it makes pugging a nightmare because of the time cost.

All to prop up mythic raid. It’s a conspiracy theory, sure, but I think it actually ticks some people off that other people have fun in the game.

Not everyone having fun wants more.

The “skill” level average has no substantive value because it changes literally every day of the week, up and down because new people join but others learn.

This is a multi-fold problem honestly. Ive been having a lot of success with members from my guild which helps but not everyone has time or, not everyones schedule line up but im in the same group, have timed 9 keys and my main is 2166, my ret and my lock is 2054 I think and I get rejected.

The problem is that blizzard has increased the difficulty of the dungeons in this seasons m+ rotation, not to an astronomical point but to a degree that you cant just turn on lofi zoomer music and zone out thinking youre gonna steam roll a 8 key at 605 ilvl…which isnt gonna happen.

The OTHER problem is that everyone is vying for that sweet sweet “meta pick” spot because that is the precession the gaming community believes as a whole is gonna clear the dungeon.

One final addition of the “just form your own group” people having to suffer with everyone else and whining about how their own groups are falling apart just…god it feels really REALLY good!

They aren’t going to make anyone better but they might raise the average skill level by running enough people away.

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Right now Dumpster fire > M+

The issue with slappy hands is pretty unforgivable at this point, tbh.

It’s been a thing for literal years, and even if you didn’t play SL, if you’re running anything above a +3 you should know by now because you’ve probably wiped a group at least once before and been yelled at for it.

NGL I’d probably ragequit too if a DK slappy hands’d the add in a +8. This is pretty basic stuff.

(I play DK myself, so…yea.)

Blizz took one of the most popular aspects of the game (M+) and decided to ruin it. Try posting a +2…any +2. You’ll sit forever with a million sub 580 DPS wanting to join whilst there’s not a tank or healer in sight.

I am a decent player, not the best and certainly not the worst. M+ was the reason I played WoW. I was close to 2900 as a totally casual pug player last season. This season, i haven’t invested much in this game since regular Mythics feels so punishing.

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Number one. Your not on a main. Number two your trolling. Gtfo

Yeah, I’ve taken up the Hunter mantle in groups with RoTA. They’re like squirrel!!

Still better than Brann off pulling mobs into more mobs in a delve

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