To the people who are anti #pulltheripcord

Except you’re not calling a child a child.

You’re calling a general contractor who wants to use his electrical, plumbing, woodworking tools that they’ve bought and earned freely a child.

That’s in no way accurate or fair.

The argument which is more in line with Blizzard’s approach is that you can’t be a general contractor without being punished. If you want to use tools in a different trade, you have to go to the store each time and rebuy your tools.

We’ll we can agree to disagree there and leave it at that.

We can agree to disagree with this one. I do like this analogy though.

It is entirely fair, just not liked. Also would prob get you a bad job done by the contractor, but if that ended up being the case you would just report them for doing a bad job and they’d either be fired or wrote up. Thicker skin is always needed, and if people get upset at being called out on bad behavior, then that is not my problem. That is theirs, they have mental issues they need to deal with or insecurities there. I own mine, especially my selfishness.

The best approach is a specialized approach, unless you are someone in need of multiple jobs, then general is there. You do not want to hire a plumber who has 20 years of experience in being a plumber, 5 years of experience in being an electrician, 10 years of experience in woodworking, and other stuff vs a plumber who had 30+ years of experience in just plumbing if all you need is to get your toilet fixed.

You want specialized people and the more specialized for jobs, the better they are at that job. Some situations require other stuff, but usually that is how the world works.

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Same here.

That’s why I’m happy to admit I’m for the current system because of how punishing it is.

I don’t want it changed - and seeing your arguments just supports the other side.

A general contractor who does all areas for 5 years CAN be better than a “specialist” that has been doing it for 20+ years.

Rare, but possible.

The thing about the system is that it FORCES the person who COULD be amazing at all areas to be sub-optimal at all but one.

Someone who’s willing to put the time and effort into being amazing at all areas but is arbitrarily forced into a sub-optimal position isn’t “spoiled”. This is why your argument is bad.

If they suck trying to spread themselves too thin - they’ll do that on their own. They don’t need arbitrary system restrictions to do that for them.

Absolutely! Yeah, there are always exceptions and rare occurences.

If they want to go that route, though, they can just make multiple toons and then be amazing and everything still. It doesn’t limit your potentiality on anything but that one toon.

The person will still be there, and people already swap toons for stuff as it is now even in this xpac. It just tells players “No, you’re not a god, stop trying to become one.”

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Exactly! And these are the kinds of punishments I’m in favor of.

That doesn’t make your argument good though.

A general contractor who wants to move all of their tools in one trailer isn’t spoiled.

Having to make multiple toons of the same class within this system is essentially forcing a general contractor to move all of their tools for the separate areas in separate individual trailers. It doesn’t make them entitled or spoiled for having an issue with that restriction - but it is punishing them for wanting to diversify.

At this point because it’s being spammed, turning into another HE thing which doesn’t win any fans.

What’s a HE thing?

lol, the answer you get for this will be as incoherent as the statement you quoted. They don’t know why they don’t want people to have choice, they just know they don’t.

Assuming high elf. Something spammed almost daily for 2 years.

Most people know exactly why they’re against it. Others just do not like the reason, nor care to hear it.

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Was a handful of the same people spamming GD with threads about the same topic over and over instead of staying contained in a single thread.

So, what is it hurting you to allow people to choose freely? The crazy part about all this is that it is just like anti-flyers. You realize you don’t have to choose, right? You can pick and never choose anything else and play the way you want but the way you want negatively affects the masses. The other way around does not. So why is your choice the route we should go?

Ahh ok, yeah that’s already happeneing. I found a few threads about #pulltheripcord already and some of those even got locked. Pretty sure it’s gonna continue happening. You literally cannot have one or the other on this as it is a difference in philosophy/game design. Both of which goes entirely against the other.

Because of a game design choice. You cannot have one without breaking the other. Free choice goes against what the anti- want, which at least for me is a design choice where “choice matters” means permanence or as close to it as possible like it being on CD for a week. You have to make a choice, then, you can still swap, just cannot swap back.

One philosophy is: game design with freedom at it’s core. It’s basically a freedom vs rules thing imo.

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#pulltheripcord

I’ve yet to see any logical argument for keeping covenants locked.

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I’ve yet to see an argument that isn’t out of ego, for unlocking them.

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Fun.

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Blizzard is removing posts because sad people who have no life are reporting these threads.

Blizzard wants to silence us

TIME TO BE LOUD! They are silencing us!