To people who refuse to do dungeons, even normal…why?

I think it’s Blizzard’s fault.

I’ve encountered this is in one of my guilds.

They’ve made the game so solo focused at this point all the way up until raid content that newer players just like, don’t want to dungeon. Despite it being the fastest and easiest way to level.

As other people have said though, it’s long past time that WoW should have the option for you to dung with NPCs. You already have the option for a bodyguard in both Legion and BFA. As the Highlord or the High Priest or Guardian of the Tirisgard or whatever it’s not like you obviously wouldn’t have an entourage to begin with. Not to mention they literally already have tons of quests in the game where you go in to an existing dungeon with an NPC or NPCs to do a quest. It’s already there so just expand it.

Star Trek Online has had this system for years where you can choose I think 2 or 3 NPCs from your crew to take with you on away missions, which are basically instanced quests/dungeons.

Go go go keep moving don’t read anything or look around go go go go go we need to complete it.

:point_up:This is why.

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i can’t think of any mechanics that could cause a wipe in a normal dungeon at this point

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I can because I seent it.

One time I’m pretty sure it was a normal Necrotic Wake, like, someone pulled the dudes at the beginning and it just infinite spawned ghouls. Everyone eventually died and I don’t think the tank was there yet.

okay, but that sounds more like a problem with the tank not being there

Blizzards current dungeon design are centered around the M+ esport crowd. I didn’t care for rushing back before M+ and haven’t grown any fonder of them. Ppl who behaved like that used to be called out. Now its encouraged behavior.

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Truth yea.

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Yea this exactly.

I’m one of those people and I kind of get it but it’s self-propelling. The problem is they broke the game 10 years ago when they made Cata and intentionally made dungeons easy enough that you can just roflstomp 40 mobs at once. It’s encouraged now like you said.

There’s absolutely no reason in a normal or heroic or even a mythic 0 to be acting like you need to be careful or slow.

In timewalking maybe.

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I’ll gladly run a dungeon I can solo. I’ll run a dungeon with friends. But strangers in this community are awful, Blizz makes zero effort to discourage toxicity, and I am not going to expose myself to that in an activity I pursue for fun.

TL:DR this community is terrible.

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Im just a casual pvper and too lazy to learn dungeons, my last dugeon I tried months ago for a quest I was kick halfway thru for reasons I will never know lawl

As someone who used to be one of these players, for me it was mainly how bad the typical “rando” was - be it bad attitude, bad gameplay, etc - and a dearth of friends/guildies to do content with. I imagine a lot of players are often met with silence in /gchat when they ask if anyone wants to run something.

also there are little incentive to do dungeons besides M+, they don’t give decent XP or rewards

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No, just exhausting and frustrating.

So, I can go at my pace and not feel rushed nor annoy others with my slow and steady pace.

Hello, have you met the WoW community? Yea it can be intimidating to queue for dungeons or interact with people in this game. Too many judgey jerks that expect you to play their way. Or follow some flow chart even in normals.

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Despite Bluzz’s best efforts, I play the game on my terms.

I don’t want virtual schedules and obligations.
I want to come and go as I please.
I play only what I like.

Simple and effective, for keeping the game peripheral in my life.

#IJAG

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No one played the game to get beat up by random strangers because they haven’t memorized a YouTube video BEFORE playing the game. But that’s gaming today… Streamers went from “the place to go when you’re stuck” to “the place to go to trivialize things and complain before they even launch.” But I might be wrong. Who knows?

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Old dungeons were great you had to work as a team, Crowd Control was needed, i remember in classic as a hunter i always had to pull in some dungeons and freeze mobs, now all the leveling dongeons are stupid easy, just face tank and watch out for the mechnics there is no strats anymore where you teammates have to do their jobs

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Lackluster rewards

There is a dungeon journal you can easily read that with all the relevant info and the 1000s of youtube video guides on those dungeons.

Sorry, not gonna read guides to ‘play the game’. Tons of people do the same, they just want to play and experience the game. Not have it spoiled via guides, etc.

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