To everyone that’s upset about that the slime cat isnt in LFR

His argument is wrong. Because he based it off the premise that LFR shouldn’t get the slime cat since LFR has never been included in seasonal rewards before. But that’s invalid reasoning given that Normal has been included in Season 4’s rewards, and it was never included for seasonal rewards in the past either.

So, now that he’s been proven wrong on that front, he’s attempting to back up his argument by saying that LFR isn’t actually raiding. When it is, according to Blizzard.

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Because everyone is perfect? It happens.

There nothing to engage. LFR has never given a seasonal mount before. That doesn’t change whether or not this is an experimental season or not. Blizz decided LFR shouldn’t award the mount as it’s a seasonal mount reward for raiding.

I am reading what you said, which is:

It doesn’t get any more clear than that. Your argument is wrong. Just accept it, dude.

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It’s not wrong. You just don’t agree with it and that’s ok.

So then why has Blizz not allowed LFR to receive the slimecat?

the main difference between LFR and normal is that normal requires you to assemble your own group…LFR is an entirely different animal, since you can pug it in group finder, and the expectations from an individual are overall a lot lower. It also rewards you for failing.

So lowering the standard from heroic to normal makes sense to me too, and i think snozh is actually correct on that…if he’s basing it on evidence from the past, I’d say he hasn’t been proven wrong at all.

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It’s not wrong because you disagree with it.

End of the day slimecat isn’t awarded via LFR. You can either accept it or continue to complain. It’s your choice.

No one knows. That’s the point.

It is wrong, considering you’ve been proven wrong on every point.

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You are going to lose this game, my friend. Snozh is a master of deflection. Presenting his own logic to him goes in one ear and out the other ear. It’s actually impressive how capable he is in that regard and how incapable he is everywhere else.

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He’s guessing. Until Blizzard confirms his reasoning, he is wrong and his argument is invalid.

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you really think blizz is going to make a comment on this? they’re eating more :popcorn: than the rest of the community

It doesn’t matter whether they comment on it or not. Their word is law, given that this is their game. People like Snozh can’t sit here and expect their arguments to be taken seriously if they can’t base them on actual fact. Until Blizz confirms otherwise, LFR is raiding. Since Normal has been included in the seasonal reward lineup, arguing that LFR shouldn’t be included due to how past seasons have worked makes the argument invalid.

It is wrong because your argument isn’t based on supportive fact and is instead just based on how you feel.

I’m not complaining. I’m just enjoying picking apart your invalid argument.

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LFR shouldn’t be included because like i explained, it can be cheesed in ways that give you an edge over other modes. I’d say that more overqualified players would actually prefer LFR - which would water down the reward significantly as well.

if you’re struggling in normal, you have to get it right to defeat the encounter…

there’s going to be LFR raids that just intentionally wipe a few times to have the determination stacks, so they can just muscle through some of those bosses. That’s what i would call an imbalance…

at least having it at normal and higher means the standards as far as success are equal (ie, no sort of determination mechanics)

It’s honestly not the fact that it isn’t available from LFR. It’s the fact the achievement said “on ANY difficulty” and the fact that LFR was not included in “ANY difficulty” was not stated until someone asked the question on the forums. That’s the problem. If the achievement had said “on Normal or higher” then I’m sure some people still would’ve complained, but that would’ve been a different issue.

Whether or not the slime cat should drop from LFR is a different issue from Blizzard essentially lying (or at least being unintentionally misleading) about the mount drop.

Also, there was a mount drop from the queueable raid for the 15-year anniversary event, so it’s reasonable for people to assume they might be treating this more as a special event participation reward for Season 4, rather than a regular AOTC-style mount.

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I mean, okay. But that’s just your opinion. And not the reason that Blizzard gave, since they haven’t provided any explanation on why they made the change.

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I literally stated it’s my guess. Are you really that obtuse?

Sure thing. The only evidence we have supports me more than you because I’m the mounts not obtainable through LFR.

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yeah it would be speculation at this point, but i think snozh is using evidence to support his position, so not sure why you guys are upset with him

But seasonal rewards haven’t been obtainable from Normal before either. Again, your argument is invalid. Keep reaching though and pretending that you’re right.

Someone has definitely been obtuse in this conversation, and it hasn’t been me…

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If it wasn’t right then you wouldn’t need to keep reassuring yourself that in wrong.

You can repeat it till you’re blue in the face but that doesn’t change anything.

It’s definitely you.

Which means it was probably a mistake and never intended to be from LFR.

Or Blizz had an employee make a mistake. Then they realized it and fixed it.

That’s an anniversary mount not a seasonal mount.

Because they are upset someone made a mistake and don’t understand it was probably never intended to be from LFR.

As normal has never given rewards and this season is an experiment it might be plays able to think that they are trying out giving normal rewards too.

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