I mean, I’m not concerned about normal’s difficulty or accessibility. I’m concerned that Blizzard clearly established one thing and then backtracked days before the patch was set to release.
But if there are no distinctions between LFR and normal, why lock it to normal? That’s a decision that makes little sense.
Also we have already established that this is not a normal season by any means, so I don’t know why we insist on maintaining such a rigid structure.
yeah i think they waited too long to announce things as well…not just for clarifying things like the S4 raid text…but also how gearing/trinkets/etc. work as well.
i personally, never expected the s4 achieve mount to be in LFR (since AOTC equivalents or seasonal raid achieves never included the mode), but I can understand where some people are coming from.
I think it’s the only argument many players have though - and it’s weak, considering any patch in PTR has had last minute changes before…whether it was fixing how certain achievements/rewards worked, recoloring mounts, or most importantly imo, class balance changes.
Previews of upcoming season’s achievements & mounts have always been included in live versions of the game, and are often changed a bit before patch goes live.
If they did lower it to LFR, there would be no reason AOTC should be heroic and above going forward imo. 
I’m actually advocating for a clear divide. They just did it with heroic in Shadowlands. Time to do it for normal too.
Well, my guess as to why they aren’t is because one’s difficulty only marginally harder than the other, which begs an even further question as to why lock it to normal if it’s not a substantial difficulty increase?
I mean, that’s what people tend to lean toward on these forums, anyways. That normal isn’t hard.
Yet the forums have been complaining about it not being LFR so we have to decide. Is it too easy that LFR should get it cause it’s easy anyway, or is it too hard that LFR players can’t do it?
Hell I even saw a guy claiming that since you can get carried, they should put it in LFR. Wut?
you’re only looking at it from the ground up imo…
they lowered the seasonal standard from heroic to normal - which imo is actually a marginal difference in the more accessible direction…for average players.
We’re still debating this? sheesh
Imagine if the clarification was made earlier.
This I can agree with. Someone probably put any bit thinking about LFR and they realized it.
Exactly. People are overreacting on GD as usual.
I don’t think the difficulty is the problem, though. I just think people would rather stick to their own lanes and there’s nothing wrong with that, and so long as normal isn’t a substantially more difficult tier, then there’s no problem in expecting it to be attached to LFR.
But again, I think it should be attached to LFR regardless of difficulty because Blizzard clearly messed up here. Whether it was a mistake or not doesn’t change the fact that they had three months to change it and chose not to, leading people to believe that they were going to get the mount by doing LFR.
No. I’m guessing on the reason why it was originally listed as “any” and then changed to normal and up.
It’s not a guess that it was removed from LFR. As I don’t work for Blizzard anything that’s speculation on the reasons why is a guess.
There is zero reason why LFR should award a seasonal mount because of how trivial it is.
You’re assuming Blizzard caught the issue off the bat.
Exactly. Which is why you saying that Blizzard probably agrees with you on whether or not LFR is raiding is just reaching. And not based on actual fact. I’ll say it again. Until Blizzard actually states that LFR isn’t raiding or that they removed the slime cat for that reason, you are wrong.
they probably removed it from LFR cuz they want the achievement to matter…
ofc lfr is a raid
??? If Blizzard didn’t catch it, then their QA team isn’t doing their job very well.
Listen, man, you clearly have your own beliefs and that’s fine. I’m not going to engage with someone who uses precedent as their argument and then fails to acknowledge that precedent in every other capacity has been tossed out the window with this season.
The reality is that you probably actually don’t care whether or not LFR gets the mount because you never made a stink about it until Blizzard changed it, so why you insist on defending it befuddles me.
Except Snozh is trying to argue that LFR isn’t raiding.
there’s lots of players that don’t consider LFR raiding…not by definition, but by expectation/requirement i guess, so i can see where he’s coming from for sure.
i think there should be a reward in LFR for s4, it should just be different than the normal/heroic/mythic shineys 
unfortunately, i think many lfr players missed their chance to ask for one, since they were busy advocating for the slime cat instead 
In the end, it doesn’t matter what players think. According to Blizzard, LFR is raiding. It’s as simple as that. Giving his own definitions on what raiding is or isn’t does not help Snozh’s argument.
well, snozh is allowed to think what he wants…who are we to assert whether or not his argument is wrong?
i’m sure some people at blizzard also consider LFR a joke mode, don’t you?
I never said Blizz agreed with me on LFR being or not being a raid. I said they agreed with me that LFR should receive it. Which is evident because they removed it.
Try reading what I say.