I don’t need to reassure myself of anything. I’m not the one that created an entire thread based on an invalid argument.
I agree. But it’s a big PR blunder in an era where Blizzard cannot afford PR blunders. That’s it. I honestly don’t care about the mount or who gets it or where it drops. I probably wouldn’t even do LFR for it if they put it in LFR. But it looks bad to say something and then change it, even if it was a mistake. If a retail store employee accidentally puts the wrong price on an item, the store will almost always honor it if the mistake was theirs and not the customer trying to deceive them. This is the same thing. The mistake was theirs, they should apologize and honor what was announced and put up in the game, even if it’s not what was originally intended.
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100%, and the people who try to pigeonhole players into “accept anything” are part of the issue. They defend blizzard to ridiculous lengths, probably because they’re hopelessly addicted. Try telling somebody addicted to weed, how smoking all day may be bad for them, and they then will cite the same 2 great health benefits.
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It’s also worth mentioning that buckling down on said mistake only convinces people to not buy the thing/engage with the content.
Very rarely have I seen a retail employee go “I can’t change it, this is the final price, sorry.” and then the customer subsequently saying “That’s okay, I’ll just pay the price as it is.” It’s almost always ending with that customer leaving the store because they were essentially told one thing and then presented with another thing.
I have to imagine that this will not convince players to play with the content. If anything, they will likely be more convinced not to play it.
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I agree it looks bad and they might want to consider adding LFR to it but I have the opinion that LFR shouldn’t award it.
It’s not. Anything before patch is subject to change. It’s literally in the fine print of any beta or ptr.
It was never announced. Someone found the achievement.
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You not being able to refute it doesn’t make it invalid.
Take a step back and breath. It may help.
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Hello.
The achievement that included LFR was not in beta. It was live, in-game, so the idea that beta and PTR rules apply here is not valid.
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You do realize that things get transferred over. However the achievement while in game in live isn’t active until the patch meaning it’s still subject to change.
They do this to make the patch on patch day smaller so everyone isn’t trying to download it at once.
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remember when people didn’t like the color of the seasonal mounts?
they changed those because the patch was still on PTR…same goes with class balance & other changes.
even the making the change to LFR difficulty could still be implemented since the patch isn’t live yet, and still on PTR…(not likely but who knows, it’s not tomorrow yet)
do you guys also believe everything they include in alpha/beta aren’t subject to change either?
I did refute it. Several times over. You just can’t accept it.
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That’s where you’re mistaken. You didn’t refute anything.
Just because it wasn’t available to normal and now it is doesn’t mean it should be available to LFR as shown by Blizz making it not available to LFR.
End of the day you didn’t refute anything.
Except I did. I specifically refuted the reasons you gave for why the slime cat shouldn’t be included in LFR. If your reasons can’t stand up, then your argument is invalid.
My argument has stood up. Just because normal is receiving it doesn’t affect LFR.
No, it has not. The reasons you gave are weak and have been refuted several times over.
Lol sure thing. That’s why you can’t answer why Blizz removed it.
Take the L. You haven’t refuted anything.
Tomorrow will decide. If Blizz keeps it as it is, then we know for sure.
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And neither can you. Even though you claimed they probably agree with you, despite there not being any official statements to back you up. You’re the one that can’t take the L, my dude.
It won’t decide anything if they don’t actually give their reasons for making the change. Whether or not they keep the slime cat normal-only tomorrow, Snozh’s argument will still be invalid until Blizzard says something that supports his reasoning on why LFR should not be included in seasonal rewards.
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I don’t care for these threads until Tuesday but I feel like you just single handedly proved what Meiyra was trying to say.
You admit normal has never given rewards like this and that this season is an experiment. By that logic it wouldn’t be wrong to assume it could have potentially been in LFR as well, which was her point.
If it is a misunderstanding then so be it but the way the achievement was worded gives no indication it would be for Normal+ and not LFR+. By your own words, since it was never done for Normal that could also apply to LFR since LFR also hasn’t had something like this.
Even if you won’t admit it willingly, you do agree on that point that this is a new thing for Normal to get a completion reward, so it isn’t wild for anyone to think that based on the wording it would be available in LFR.
Just because Blizzard decides it’s Normal only doesn’t make you right, if you yourself agree on it’s an experiment for more Normal rewards then it’s hard to say it couldn’t also be interpreted as LFR rewards too.
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I never claimed too.
I said it looks as if they agree with me because they removed the mount from LFR.
That’s the point. There is no way to know for sure which is what I clearly stated.
You clearly have a reading comprehension issue.
Not at all.
No. I stated originally that LFR has never given a seasonal mount.
While neither has normal and that this is an experimental season there is zero evidence that supports why LFR would automatically be included in the rewards because normal is.
My entire point is that someone at Blizz made a mistake and that LFR was probably never intended to be included.
All Meiyra keeps repeating is that LFR is assumed because normal is getting it which aside from the obvious mistake someone at Blizz made on the achievement that said “any”.
My point that it seems to have been a mistake to use the word any was then supported by the fact that Blizz changed the achievement and that it was never intended to be awarded from LFR.
And the point is that the way the achievement was worded was a mistake.
Actually there is zero evidence to support that just because normal is now receiving an award that it’s safe to assume LFR would be.
Again disagree. Some people want it to interpreted as such but just because normal is how reviving a reward doesn’t automatically mean LFR would.