To All who want RDF

I get that you’re confused but wow gold isn’t real money. You need to get away from the game for awhile and get out more. You’re starting to think a fantasy game is real.

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Whats hilarious is Bloom being more disruptive to the forums than the guy talking to himself.

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Yeah, because it doesn’t exists. That’s why you can’t quote it.

Yes I do, because I can read quarterly reports

Notice how I can back up my claims with sources? That’s why I fare better in these discussions.

How many people are leaving? How many have to leave for you to consider a product worth millions in profits to be failing?

Which is worth so much that you consider a product that is making millions in profit to be a failure?

If it was free it wouldn’t cost a currency.

WoW gold is a currency that requires a time investment. Were you not taught the phrase “Time is money” in school? It’s pretty much the basics of economics and personal finance… everything is an opportunity costs.

What’s more hilarious is that his posts are more useful than the semantics arguments I’ve been seeing here. :wink:

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But that’s the point. It isn’t an accurate representation of the current WotLK “Classic”.

It’s an abomination of new and old. A hybrid. Reforged if you will.

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How do you know? You just said you dont know what you have said.

No, I just dont feel like going through your posts going back to phase 1.

Really? Because none of that talks about how much Classic is bringing in. It just talks about the number of users and how much money Activision, Blizzard and King brought in. It does not tell in what you linked how much Wrath of the Lich King Classic Brings in nor does ANY of the links talk about Wrath Classic or even classic for that matter.

What you linked does not show Wrath Classic making millions.

Already answered that. From the start of P2, to the end of P2/Start of P3 over 50% of the playerbase left. Servers have almost been entirely shut down and I really dont know why Blizzard is waiting to pull the plug on them.

You have 0 proof that this product is making millions. Over 50% of the playerbase leaving is a failure.

Again you have no proof of what how much Wrath Classic actually makes. And losing over 50% of the playerbase is a failure.

Really? Because I havent opened my wallet in years. Its free.

No, no its not.

WoW gold is not money, and I heard it in Star Trek.

Then stop doing the semantics then.

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Where in this quarterly report are their classic earnings?

Ironforge.pro is a more accurate representation of the classic playerbase than that.

Fun fact, the word “classic” is mentioned 0 times in the actual paper.

edit: Hell, just read the one line about World of Warcraft in there:

  • The World of Warcraft ® team is delivering more content faster than ever before following the November release of the Dragonflight™ expansion for the Modern game, and subscriber retention in the West remains higher than at the equivalent stage of recent Modern expansions.

The best they can say about WoW is that “Dragonflight is better than the most recent expansions”.

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Literally nowhere. I not only looked through that link, but the links within it as well. No mention of Classic or Wrath.

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Exactly, as my edit says, the only mention of World of Warcraft is “DF does slightly better than recent expansions” which is hardly the raving review you want for classic :stuck_out_tongue:

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And not even the good parts of retail, we have a junky watered down version of M+ and a garbage version of the LFG Tool instead of RDF(which ironically retail has)

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Semantics argument.

Because you can’t cite it.

Yes it is. Again, it would helpful if you could read them.

A number you’ve made up and can’t cite is not an answer.

I posted the proof. You were incapable of reading it. That doesn’t mean the proof doesn’t exist.

It’s an opportunity costs. Do you need this explained to you?

Lumped in with their Blizzard earnings.

No – a third party website is not more accurate.

Maybe perhaps try reading the entire report? I know, it’s dense, but it would help you craft a better point.

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Its not hard to beat the absolute failure that was Shadowlands.

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Not really unlike vanilla and TBC Classic blizzard isn’t even trying to recreate the original and has been actively making changes to it.

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You’re confused again. Most likely because you can’t read quarterly reports. Let me clear it up for you. I’ll try to keep it simple enough for you. Kelliste was talking specifically about Wrath Classic. The quarterly reports contain information about Activisions profits in general. Even the section on Blizzard doesn’t separate wow classic and retail or WoW from other blizzard products. It makes it clear that Diablo IV is the major reason profits have increased. It’s quite possible that players are leaving Wrath and the subs are down while profits for Blizzard have increased due to Diablo IV. Hope that clears up your confusion. Sorry you’re so wrong again.

Brushing my dog is a time investment. It takes time but it doesn’t cost or earn me anything. Time is money is a Franklin proverb like a penny saved is a penny earned. Neither is true. The first is to encourage people to use their time wisely, the second to encourage people to save money. Neither is seriously taught in an economics course. You’re really confused today, much more than your ordinary confusion.

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Sounds like he can’t actually read quarterly reports :stuck_out_tongue:

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Don’t care what you call it, it’s not a version of the game that is remotely recognizable.

Cause of people like you.

A toddler is more accurate than LITERALLY NO INFORMATION which that paper had.

I’m sure a clever person like you can just quote the part we’re missing.

I won’t be holding my breath, you’re just gonna do your usual “do your own research” nonsense here btw.

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Yes what is? Are you really telling me to learn to read while providing an answer that has absolutely nothing to do with what you posted? And no, that link does not talk about how much Classic is bringing in. I read it, and looked through the links within and there is 0 mention of Wrath or Classic.

I havent made it up.

No you didnt.

So where does it talk about Wrath Classic in it? You do know that you can do a ctrl + F to search keywords right and neither Wrath nor Classic are within the article or the links in the article.

So where is it? Because Wrath and Classic do not exist anywhere in what you linked.

Yes it is.

You can just do a search, and guess what, its not in the report.

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I did read it, it’s actually very clear and simple. But I get why you found it dense, on the unlikely possibility you actually read it. At no point does it separate blizzard’s profits from wow and Diablo IV or any other blizzard product. What you didn’t understand if you really read the report is that it’s quite possible that Wrath could be losing players or that wow subs are down but that due to Diablo IV blizzard’s over all profits have increased. I glad I could clear that up for you.

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When I wrote the following post or rather the bulk of it, I lived here on the wow classic forum. I should not obtrude so much upon my affairs to mere strangers, but the only solution to RDF is a firm grasp of the story of Walden and his pond.

When Henery went to the pond it is a lot like you using LFG rather than RDF. When you explore his teaching, it becomes clear where Thoreau would stand on this issue. One only needs to read between the lines. If you need me to further illustrate I can.

but a Ret paladin has an infinite queue

That is like the ants and their march across the flats near Walden Pond. They are not to dissimilar to you rets. Not only in syllables but also in strife.

let me pull that out for you in quotes

" I was witness to events of a less peaceful character. One day when I went out to my wood-pile, or rather my pile of stumps, I observed two large ants, the one red, the other much larger, nearly half an inch long, and black, fiercely contending with one another. Having once got hold they never let go, but struggled and wrestled and rolled on the chips incessantly. Looking farther, I was surprised to find that the chips were covered with such combatants, that it was not a duellum, but a bellum, a war between two races of ants, the red always pitted against the black, and frequently two red ones to one black. The legions of these Myrmidons covered all the hills and vales in my wood-yard, and the ground was already strewn with the dead and dying, both red and black. It was the only battle which I have ever witnessed, the only battle-field I ever trod while the battle was raging; internecine war; the red republicans on the one hand, and the black imperialists on the other. On every side they were engaged in deadly combat, yet without any noise that I could hear, and human soldiers never fought so resolutely. I watched a couple that were fast locked in each other’s embraces, in a little sunny valley amid the chips, now at noonday prepared to fight till the sun went down, or life went out. The smaller red champion had fastened himself like a vice to his adversary’s front, and through all the tumblings on that field never for an instant ceased to gnaw at one of his feelers near the root, having already caused the other to go by the board; while the stronger black one dashed him from side to side, and, as I saw on looking nearer, had already divested him of several of his members. They fought with more pertinacity than bulldogs. Neither manifested the least disposition to retreat. It was evident that their battle-cry was “Conquer or die.” In the meanwhile there came along a single red ant on the hillside of this valley, evidently full of excitement, who either had dispatched his foe, or had not yet taken part in the battle; probably the latter, for he had lost none of his limbs; whose mother had charged him to return with his shield or upon it. Or perchance he was some Achilles, who had nourished his wrath apart, and had now come to avenge or rescue his Patroclus. He saw this unequal combat from afar–for the blacks were nearly twice the size of the red–he drew near with rapid pace till be stood on his guard within half an inch of the combatants; then, watching his opportunity, he sprang upon the black warrior, and commenced his operations near the root of his right foreleg, leaving the foe to select among his own members; and so there were three united for life, as if a new kind of attraction had been invented which put all other locks and cements to shame. I should not have wondered by this time to find that they had their respective musical bands stationed on some eminent chip, and playing their national airs the while, to excite the slow and cheer the dying combatants. I was myself excited somewhat even as if they had been men. The more you think of it, the less the difference. And certainly there is not the fight recorded in Concord history, at least, if in the history of America, that will bear a moment’s comparison with this, whether for the numbers engaged in it, or for the patriotism and heroism displayed. For numbers and for carnage it was an Austerlitz or Dresden. Concord Fight! Two killed on the patriots’ side, and Luther Blanchard wounded! Why here every ant was a Buttrick–“Fire! for God’s sake fire!”–and thousands shared the fate of Davis and Hosmer. There was not one hireling there. I have no doubt that it was a principle they fought for, as much as our ancestors, and not to avoid a three-penny tax on their tea; and the results of this battle will be as important and memorable to those whom it concerns as those of the battle of Bunker Hill, at least.

I took up the chip on which the three I have particularly described were struggling, carried it into my house, and placed it under a tumbler on my window-sill, in order to see the issue. Holding a microscope to the first-mentioned red ant, I saw that, though he was assiduously gnawing at the near foreleg of his enemy, having severed his remaining feeler, his own breast was all torn away, exposing what vitals he had there to the jaws of the black warrior, whose breastplate was apparently too thick for him to pierce; and the dark carbuncles of the sufferer’s eyes shone with ferocity such as war only could excite. They struggled half an hour longer under the tumbler, and when I looked again the black soldier had severed the heads of his foes from their bodies, and the still living heads were hanging on either side of him like ghastly trophies at his saddle-bow, still apparently as firmly fastened as ever, and he was endeavoring with feeble struggles, being without feelers and with only the remnant of a leg, and I know not how many other wounds, to divest himself of them, which at length, after half an hour more, he accomplished. I raised the glass, and he went off over the window-sill in that crippled state. Whether he finally survived that combat, and spent the remainder of his days in some Hôtel des Invalides, I do not know; but I thought that his industry would not be worth much thereafter. I never learned which party was victorious, nor the cause of the war; but I felt for the rest of that day as if I had had my feelings excited and harrowed by witnessing the struggle, the ferocity and carnage, of a human battle before my door."

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