They’re talking about Codex. It’s a 15 (or 20?) man anniversary event that just started this year. It drops a cache at the end with an RNG mog in it.
The event is so trivial that it’s useless kicking mog farmers. It would serve nobody. Plus you need 5 votes to initiate the kick (which is the main reason nobody gets kicked).
Definitely odd I would say that time walking dungeons are literally the least amount of kicks that I ever see. At least one or two players are killing it and tearing the whole place down so that somebody that was only doing a quarter of their maximum damage wouldn’t even be noticed lol let alone being kicked.
I can’t even remember the last time I saw a kick in a time walking dungeon off hand
Maybe that’s what they need to do in dungeons. Three people need to initiate a kick. I would say that if that were the case a lot of the abuse of other players would end or at least be remedied
Yup, the process of requiring more than one person to initiate requires a lot more thought than blindly pressing “Yes” to keep someone from spamming you with votekick popups.
I understand, that’s why I asked for elaboration. Thank you
I thought about that, but if people just had to initiate, they would take the extra second or two to weaponize it like they do with flags. Whatever power you can give to random people to ruin the experience for undeserving folks, you can rest assure that they will run with it.
Absolutely agree. I don’t even blame the people who click yes really because I know they’re just trying to get that stupid box off their screen. Just moving that thing out of the center of our screen would probably alleviate some of this problem. I think we’ve suggested that about a thousand times in here but blizard doesn’t seem to want to do anything about it…
Putting the kick screen right dead center of the action forces us to do something really quick and yeah it’s easy just to click yes instead of taking the time to figure out whether the person deserves to be kicked or not
And then yeah making more votes to initiate a kick required I’d say that it definitely would alleviate nearly all of the abusive behavior towards innocent players with the vote kick
You’ve literally claimed you don’t even run queued content with pugs anymore. And seeing as how I have Classic Troll on ignore, I have no idea what you’re talking about.
Can you show me where anyone claimed you were running with the exact same people? Or what that has to do with the conversation at all?
Also: there is zero proof that profane reasons are consistently and continually the only thing people see in that box. I’ve heard of three examples on these forums between CS and here. Nothing I’ve ever seen, nothing anyone I’ve asked across three servers has ever seen.
So you went from one type of hyperbole to another?
You claimed earlier no one was trying to get rid of the system entirely… then just stated you want to get rid of the system entirely.
And you’re trying to blame others for your problem of putting everyone on ignore so it’s just your echo chamber, where you claim no one is addressing anything, when we are, you just never even see it.
No one can have a conversation with an echo chamber. But keep blaming us for that.
This is the apathy I was talking about. 
Which you’re right, people have openly admitted that they rarely ever read the reason, they just click to get it off their screen. Rubber-stamping can be efficient, but also paints the wrong picture.
This is a tough nut to crack. It makes me wonder how FFXIV does not have the same problem. Party kicks are not even common.
Those people are their own worst enemy, if that’s the case.
I’ve seen many people say they click yes just to make the box go away. Well, clicking no does the same thing, and with less hassle than having someone removed from the group and replaced. People are given the choice, and they’re choosing yes. That, in itself, makes the kick “justified”. In order to have the ability to remove those from the group we don’t want to be with, there are only so many reasonable options. Asking the group a simple yes or no question, with a ‘it’s best to decide now, so this box is right in front of you’, makes sense, as annoyed as people get. If I initiate a vote (for me, personally, it takes a lot), and the vote fails, I now have the decision to stay or go, as the majority of the group wants the other party to stay.
The vote kick is simple. If the majority of the group doesn’t want to play with someone, they don’t have to. If you clicked yes, then you don’t want to play with that person. We can make up excuses why the yes or no was clicked all we want, people were given the choice.
I think they’re being honest, the issue is they’re the exact reason the current kick system is fundamentally flawed.
They were speeding through a dungeon and a spriest was unsurprisingly falling behind a (likely) warrior or DH tank, unable to get a cast off and could only put up Shadow Word: Pain before the targets fell.
So the player got kicked after a 15 minute queue and received a 30 minute penalty.
Was the kick justified? That’s up to the group. All I’m saying is that penalty is absurd especially due to being tied to a monthly sub.
The logic that you’re presenting makes sense, I just think they made the story up and didn’t think of the logic behind it, as you are.
I read a lot of anecdotes and the made up ones often have a huge hole in them, like this one.
Legit kicks do deserve the penalty. The problem is when you allow the public to police themselves. This did not work back hundreds of years ago when people could just point at someone, yell “criminal!” and the person was executed, it doesn’t work now.
I won’t hold my breath for a better solution.
theyve said it a long list of times on this forum when the topic comes up.
Cant vote yes to vote kicks that supposedly aint happening, according to some in here, lolol
right…and no one is asking to take the kick away.
We’re discussing modifying the “punishment” for the most part.
Luckily no one is suggesting such a stupid idea
yeah, this mob rules crap rarely turns out well.
Ive seen and participated in enough valid kicks to know they happen for certain…but personally I was seeing a LOT more kicks that werent deserved than were.
Every time I start running dungeons again they make me regret it in less than half dozen runs, lol.
read much?
Ive said about 25 times that I’ll JOKE about that here and there.
pay attention. If you cant please try to respond to someone else
I just like to provide context for my claims of things
Since you know, you did say it “jokingly”
When its trivial content that can be completed by 2 players, 3 at most, you really have to wonder about personalities that are kicking players that arent even needed to finish the run lolol.
lol thats not true at all. this is how things are in real life.
if your the odd one out acting crazy and psycho and not adhereing to the majority’s normal irl then you go to jail or a mental institution. and are shunned by the majority of society.
ONLY online is the place where people like you think its ok to act solely based on your “feelings” and think you can get away with it.
The gaslighting is real.
When it comes to people being toxic in a group, being a detriment to the group, not vibing with the group, arguing with the group, doing their own thing instead of with the group, etc… then the players get to vote if they want.
And claiming that everyone hits the yes button to get the pop up out of their way is a YOU problem. I was taught to read before I mindlessly hit yes. And if there’s no outstanding reason I notice, I automatically hit NO.
This is why this topic is always a problem on this forum: gaslighting and making stuff up to further an agenda.