And that’s a problem, there shouldn’t be unlimited attempts. One attempt to kick per player, per run should be the standard. Majority ruled, if you can’t deal with the results you shouldn’t be able to just try again.
Exactly. A handful of people constantly creating these threads does not constitute a systemic issue that warrants an overhaul to the system.
They addressed the leaving issue, so yes, they would have addressed a vote kick issue if there was one.
This is another thing: people seem to have this illusion that everyone just hits yes. The no button is right there, too.
But if y’all are so adamant that everyone surely must be hitting yes (heavy sarcasm there), then do what Snowpine said a while ago if this obsession is so real: put a timer on the stupid yes button.
I don’t think it’s at all necessary. But if it’s the security blanket some need, then so be it. Won’t deter me at all. Unless there’s a blatantly known reason for a kick, I hit no in the rare times I see 'em.
Still here trolling after you were even warned by a moderator, eh? You still have nothing to add to this topic and you are going to be the one who gets it shut down because of your behavior.
Excellent, let’s kick everyone! Because we can and we want to, right? Comments like this are what show how bad the system is… but thanks for commenting, you provide more evidence of what many of us have been expressing in this post. I hope Blizzard sees this and takes action to help resolve this.
The real issue is the forums treating the character-server as the account and not the BNet account. Garentee is the same person creating these threads.
If you want to kick everyone, feel free too. I don’t care. Just let me know if you’re going to do it first so I can place your character here on the in-game ignore list so you’ll never get a chance to kick me.
Just wait till queued content is relevant again. There is a systemic issue with many “features”. This won’t be swept under the rug cause there are a few bad apples not being dealt with appropriately. Funny how M+ starts having issues with bricked keys and THATS when Blizz starts punishing the root of the problem instead of the majority of players with… buffed debuffs.
That’s because people are trained to do so. Install an app, click yes or you don’t get to use it. Wanna play wow? Click yes on the contract or you don’t get what you want.
It’s amazing what I’ve seen friends do because they didn’t read what was going to be installed along side the program they were installing. The worst was complaining their PC was slowed to a snails pace, and it was that bad. But when you install 3 different antivirus programs, you get what you get.
There is no way to upload images here? I just took a screenshot of a player who wanted to be Kicked for “AFK” when the Details Addon indicated that he was doing Damage, so he was not “AFK” and still the others Voted YES but even though I Voted no, I could not save him, now a person who at this moment will not be able to play for 30 minutes because someone marked him as “AFK” when he was not… as some say in this THREAD “The system Working as it should” is not an Abuse at all… you have to have little shame to blatantly say that EVERYTHING is fine when there are people all the time being Affected by this system, and you know what is the worst? That many times it happens so fast that you do not even realize, there are Kicks that start the Voting and it ends before you can vote because the others AUTOMARK that YES, so you just see how the character leaves, it even seems that he left voluntarily from what They leave quickly, but in reality when you read the Chat you find out that it was an Expulsion.
This is spot on. And again, we are talking about group finder here. Normal, Heroic, Timewalking, and LFR. This content is supremely easy, with such a low margin for failure, that votekick abuse should not be a problem in it.
Which leads me to what I said originally. That the only common denominator is that the person is getting kicked frequently. The groups are filled with different players from different servers. The dungeons are different ones. The common factor is the player who is getting kicked. So what they are or arent doing is causing them to be kicked.
Toxic behavior can possibly be the result of one or two, but if it is occurring to the frequency where it is common, then the person getting kicked is likely the toxic one. Occam’s Razor theory applies. When presented with a lot of evidence, more likely than not the simplest explanation is the correct one. And that is, the person getting kicked frequently is causing themselves to be kicked.
And from personal experience, the person must either just be walking around, not doing anything. Or queing for tank or healer and not doing either role. Or just spam pulling everything they see and causing the group problems. Or talking in chat and telling them to slow down, or wait for them to look around, or complaining, or just being a difficult person.
And this type of defensive attitude and taking the stance that they did nothing wrong, and strangers should play the game a certain way to cater to their needs, isnt helping and is another form of toxicity.
Blizzard put in a system, in the Que’d Group Finder, as a solution for The Players To be able to remove problematic people from their groups. There would be some expected undeserved kicks, but by and large, the content where votekick is present is the lowest difficulty, and the lowest margin for failure in the game, so the risk of kicking people for not performing well are the lowest. I personally have done timewalking, where a mage literally just was pressing Arcane Explosion till they were oom, then drinking, then catching up and doing the same thing. One spell used the entire run. They didnt speak, or anyting. They just went along with the group pressing Arcane Explosion. And they werent kicked. From my experiences, you usually have to try to get kicked in Group Finder Content.
So back to the original deduction. If someone is repeatedly getting removed from random groups, with random people, in random instances, with frequency, then the only reasonable conclusion is that the person’s behavior is the reason they are being removed.
Part of the same group who obesses over the topic? Probably. Not sure same person, though.
But the OP’s attitude has been well established now. And I can understand why, even though that tank was a jerk, the OP got kicked for arguing with the group over trying to kick the healer.
This is not a systemic issue. And queued content has been relevant due to the anniversary and Turbulent Timeways incoming. I’ve run well over 200 dungeons since the anniversary began with Timewalking. I’ve seen one vote kick, which was justified due to a toxic tank who kept getting everyone killed.
Funny? No. More like, they were studying it for a while, because they have the metrics, then did the ban wave and told us what they were up to.
Just like they have the metrics and took action with people leaving after the first boss over that trinket.
And what have they done throughout all of this queued content for years and years and years of the same handful of people complaining about vote kick with the metrics they have?
Nothing.
Why?
Because it’s clearly not a systemic issue.
I call shenanigans. No one has trained anyone to hit yes. That’s a personal issue.
Literally everyone I know has been trained to hit no if they don’t read or don’t know what a pop up says.
Why? Because that’s how phishing scams can sometimes happen.
It is so functional the system that you defend that it is necessary that you take measures like that!, haha… put someone on the ignore list because you know that if I feel like it and want to expel you, you will be punished for 30 minutes without any chance to defend yourself!, jajaj… Excellent, Solution proposed by this person guys?, ignore everyone who kicks you!, exactly!, So let’s start by ignoring everyone who defends the Kicks in this Thread since as they boast to say, they would kick anyone without remorse!. jajaj… I sincerely believe that many in this thread lack not only empathy, also common sense, jajaj…
Seriously, if you look at it as punishment, then that is on you. I look at it as a chance to say, “well, time to look at doing something else instead of playing with people who want to be jerks anyways.”