Let me get this straight.
Blizzard say VTK system is working.
Players are now complaining about VTK.
Blizzard is creating more solo content like Delves and followers in Dungeons.
Is WoW becoming less MMO and becoming a whole different type of game in Retail ?
So, instead of Blizzard fixing the problem they would cover it up underneath a rug ( Like a certain religion will do to their Priests) and create solo contents for their players?
So the way you are acting so defensive kinda maybe makes me think you are part of the problem. The players who want everything meta and you can’t spec non meta or else.
Yep. One of my five or six kicks since I’ve been playing this game was four tich players who clearly used me to get into a five man and kick me not long after we ported in. Of course this was probably early to mid 2018 so it’s been a while
According to others here, this never happens… so it is assumed that your experience, that of others or mine, do not exist, they are just our imagination apparently. Haha
You mean like an AOTC heroic healer? No one likes unsolicited advice, at least we give them a warning. Should we just join the ranks of kick instantly? DPS are a dime a dozen.
No one is forcing you to be here. stop clicking on it. I’m enjoying this discussion.
Funny thing about human nature is most people don’t adamantly defend bad behavior that they aren’t personally partaking of. I’ve been watching this sort of thing pretty much all of my life.
I have family members who behave in specific ways and they are the first ones getting defensive if you bring that behavior up even if you’re not talking to them.
For example I said something on Facebook a couple years ago that was directed at somebody that my family doesn’t even know and one of my family members immediately assumed I was talking about them because that’s exactly the way they behave and they got all offended and started raging out on my Facebook page LOL.
I don’t defend bad behavior unless I’m doing the bad behavior
Reduce kick timer to 15
Leave it 30 if you leave group
There, things have improved
i’m just talking in general
yes, exactly my point. everyone is replaceable if they aren’t doing their job then they should be kicked, no point in keeping dead weight all for the exception of new players.
are your alts enjoying it too?
Honestly, I support the idea of more single player content. I’ve been suspended 3 times, and each time was because of arguments with other players.
Take one quick look at my achievements… I am a solo player who does not do group content. I don’t raid. I don’t meta anything. I am uber casual. I get the problem people have, but if you read the thread - there is no easy solution. The current system is the lesser of evils but is certainly open to adjustment. They are not going to force 4 players to play with someone they don’t want though. That tool will stay in game as long as the dungeon finder exists.
Tools like follower dungeons though for all content have been suggested and are great as an option, esp for newer players or those unsure of the game. Or for me. I like them a lot.
No one in the game is worth getting your game account actioned. Don’t ever speak to them don’t respond to them don’t entertain them. Don’t even get their attention. Just pretend they do not exist. That’s probably why my game has never been actioned. People have even contacted me directly and I pretty much just ignore it.
I don’t know anyone in the game from Adam and I’m not getting involved with them.
we can tell, i promise.
It was actually cuz you broke the tos
You can argue with people all you want, just don’t resort to profanity and name calling
This seems reasonable and it is what I was getting at when talking about kick duration penalties being changed. I THINK the average dungeon length is around 15 mins now, not 30. The intent was for it to be around the same time as a dungeon takes. Same for leaver actually.
thats about hw long the dungeon is if not shorter depends on the group
The time is 30 minutes, I’ve said it hundreds of times in each of my answers, it’s what I’ve mentioned the most! And if you want to know the duration of a normal game? Well, it varies, since in some Dungeons that you can do Boss-Skip, you can literally finish it in 5 minutes. So it’s still Predatory 30 minutes vs 5 minutes,
And sorry if I say Ban, I’m using Google Translate and many times I write Kick, and it writes Expelled or Banded… but I always refer to the same thing, Kick
The problem with any difference in penalty for leaving vs kicking is that it will incentivize people who don’t want to be in that group to do stuff to get kicked on purpose because it’s a lesser punishment than leaving.
Myself and everyone here knows exactly what you’re talking about. We know you’re using ban in a way that just basically means unable to play Y for x amount of time
It depends on the content in my opinion. A TW or normal dungeon, it should never happen as long as they are trying to keeping up. A low preforming DPS can easily be carried.
However, when you get into keys or nonLFR raiding, you need to be prepared. You should have all Chants, gems, and buffs needed to get the job done. And know how to play your class in a competitive manner.
If you don’t have all of that in place, you really shouldn’t be complaining about getting kicked, because like you said, dead weight.