My idea is to add some personal accountability to add consideration. Want to remove someone and temporarily ban them from LFG? Sign your name.
That’s a simple ask.
If people squabble so be it. Seems like more a reason to be more considerate when you choose to vote kick someone.
Regarding the “HELLO” example, it was a metaphor—I meant that you can get kicked for something very trivial. I used “hello” as a metaphor, which ties into the times I’ve been kicked for nonsensical reasons, like being from Quel’Thalas, something that several people in this post have confirmed happens.
It’s also possible that someone might get uncomfortable just because you greeted them since not everyone in this game is particularly sociable. In fact, I’ve seen more antisocial players than I’d like to admit.
As for the idea that people don’t know who votes Yes or No, if you read the full post, you’ll notice I mentioned defending a healer who was being targeted for a vote kick three separate times in the same dungeon. Because all three votes failed—thanks to me defending the healer in the chat—it became obvious that I was the one preventing the kick. That toxic tank, who was already insulting the healer, then shifted focus and kicked me instead.
In that particular dungeon, the tank was the only one complaining about everything, insulting the healer by calling them offensive names. I stood up for the healer, and for trying to be the “hero,” I ended up getting kicked and slapped with a 30-minute penalty.
If the tank is the only one causing trouble and the other members of the group just auto-click Yes on the vote, do you think that’s a positive experience? A toxic, aggressive, out-of-control tank insulting everyone who annoys them, treating others as if they’re beneath them, gets away with it while penalizing other players like me who were just trying to calm the situation and make it less hostile.
Does that seem fair to you?
Actually that’s exactly what happened. Because prior to implementing the debuff for people getting kicked, there was no debuff for people getting kicked, and that was actually abused by players who would troll groups until they got kicked because it was more beneficial to do so than to just leave.
I think when you read my posts, you misinterpreted some of the things I said, which is why you’re claiming that I made things up.
I don’t do random pool cues either.
It’s simple, but not a good idea.
And they would. What a joyous ‘solution’ to a problem that doesn’t exist.
That’s cool that you have your own. I always have to use the random ones at the pool table, I just don’t play enough to justify buying my own.
Anonymously banning people from the game for a period of time is a worse idea.
This is where “kick” and “report” need to be their own functions respectively. Kicking shouldn’t be a catch all to people who pay to play the game.
People who’d abuse the system by being force kicked are the same players abusing the system by kicking players they don’t want in the group.
The system doesn’t work.
No one is getting banned from the game via VTK, temporarily or otherwise.
Don’t let it get to you, most of the forum-goers are armchair reddit bandits that are looking for a fight in order to test out their mediocre logic skills to appease some superiority complex.
Getting kicked not only removes you from an instance you put time into (along with the queue) but also bans you explicitly from any LFG for 30 minutes.
So, yes, it does.
Dang it, these people with fancy ones of their own.
Was at a game place earlier, some of the prices on their cues … Cripes, I wish I was that good with a pool table. So fancy, and definitely not in my price range.
Edit: Any recommendation on things to watch for a table or pointy wooden sticks?
God, I love you and this post. Half of these people spend most of their days on this forum simply telling other people that their opinion is wrong. That’s the benefit to an opinion is that it’s only an opinion and there is no right and wrong there’s only perspective and perspective is subjective.
They are separate. The report function is for people who violate the code of conduct, the kick function is for a group that decides they don’t want to be grouped with a person anymore, for whatever reason the majority of the group agrees on.
It takes 3-4 people to kick someone from a group. Not 1.
Yes it does. People are allowed to vote on the kick. If enough people vote no there is no kick. It takes more than one person to kick someone.
The players didn’t make the decision to tack the deserter debuff onto being vote kicked.
The VTK system would function the same without it.
I mean, you can try? But no, you can’t kick anybody. The group can if enough people agree with your reasoning or simply don’t care. Majority rules.
I was kicked for taking the flight in Grim Batol (nothing said in chat).
I’d love to see your excuse for how this is good for the game.
How do you know? You don’t get to see the reason.
So nothing based in reality.
This would be so insanely rare and two other people would actually have to agree to that. So I’m still calling bs.
No. You were just the one arguing. So thanks for actually telling us what really happened. Sounds to me like they just didn’t want to deal with you.
Show me proof that they “auto-clicked” anything.
Sounds to me like the rest of the group just didn’t care enough, you wanted to argue about it and they didn’t want to deal with you.
The group decided. That’s all there is to this.