Clearly, as people were loud about leavers at the start of TWW, and Blizzard almost immediately implemented a solution (extending the debuff to the whole dungeon, not just until the first boss).
They also made a fix to the M+ leaver situation earlier this expansion.
I would say that Blizzard extending the debuff rather than removing it or changing the system is sufficient evidence that this isn’t a large scale problem that people say it is.
But even if it was, it’s up to the people claiming it’s a problem to prove it’s a problem. That’s where the burden of proof lies. It is not on the people saying it’s not a problem to prove it’s not a problem.
As an expert on writing rules, it’s done on purpose by people for the following reasons
So they can be bias and cherry pick what to infract so that it appears not to be bias.
They can compensate for incompetent people who hand out the infractions. If the GM/mod make a clear mistake, they can just lump whatever the person did/said into some vague/generic category, thus making it appear as if the GM/mod was justfied.
They can put the poor person in a fallacious loop, causing them to get appeal fatigue and just give up.
I’m cynical of them too. But that really does not equate to it not being a problem of the magnitude you may see. Blizzard have their agenda. There have been problems for years and years that they’ve never done anything about, despite a large amount of complaints. If the change does not fall under their agenda, there won’t be a change.
I will say, I will give you credit for not saying “Because I never seen it happen” like some people have. Confirmation bias is real in this thread.
Well first of all, you’re assuming four people would be willing to leave the group.
Secondly, yes that is correct. If four people don’t like the group, they can leave and requeue. The tradeoff is that you don’t have to subject yourself to a mediocre run but will have to endure additional queue times. Conversely, you can stay and clear the run, get your EXP and gear, and be done with it and move onto the next one.
No, not really. It’s called taking responsibility for your own actions and not pushing your self-imposed issues onto others just trying to play the game.
That’s his whole shtick here. It’s the same reason he asks others to prove VtK is not a problem, when the burden of proof lies on him to prove it is a problem.
He’s a bad actor, he’s only here to troll. His entire personality is taking not-so-subtle digs at other people’s intelligence or the way they were raised, while proclaiming himself some type of absolutely benevolent being.
And he thinks he’s an expert on forums and apparently “writing rules” because he moderated some random, small time, unimportant forum somewhere on the internet.
You didn’t use the transmog that the other random people on the internet wanted you to use. You didn’t play on the servers they like. insert other idiotic reasons here
Don’t go there. It’s a really sad way to concede an argument when someone debunks you by playing the “troll” card. That’s so 2005.
Oh, a dig at my experience while adding false information to it. golfclap
They sure do make a lot of assumptions without providing any evidence that these reasons are actually coming up anywhere near enough to be concerned about.
Yeah, here’s what’s especially funny about this argument: I’ve been playing WoW for 20 years now, and in the time I’ve played since the introduction of group finder, I’m almost certain I can count on one hand the number of times I booted someone for being intentionally toxic or trolling in group finder.
Maybe I’m just sincerely lucky, or maybe this isn’t actually the issue you or others project it to be.
Or, maybe you have a very skewed idea of what toxic is and are being dishonest when you say “toxic.”
