Unless something changed recently, that ended shortly after TWW launched. This is not an option anymore, to my knowledge.
Could, but if it’s a situation where someone is genuinely causing issues for no good reason or obviously has chosen to be a problem, the group isn’t obligated to keep them. Vote kicking exists for a reason.
It does, actually. You can vote to kick in FFXIV.
Healing in FFXIV is about as interesting as watching paint peel off of a wall.
Counterpoint: Maybe you’re not experiencing this problem because you’re better at the game than most, and people who aren’t as good are experiencing something entirely differently.
Oh well lol
But nobody was even talking about people choosing to be a problem. That was your assertion lol
I’m not speaking to specifically whether or not I’m being kicked. I’m speaking to how often I see people getting kicked in runs, which isn’t particularly often, excepting cases where somebody’s been DC’d a while or otherwise is so badly impacting a run that they need to go.
I spoke to that being one of the reasons I’ve seen people get kicked, and that even taking that into account I just don’t see people getting kicked often in runs.
You’re trying to take a snippet of my original comment completely out of context for no reason whatsoever here.
As the frequency of being kicked from runs increases, the probability of the person being kicked with increasing frequency being a problem in runs also increases. This isn’t hard.
I’ve been trying to say this the entire time but people don’t like it because it necessarily means the people getting kicked are getting kicked for a reason and they don’t like that
sorry couldn’t help myself
Everyone’s experience is different, but if they are hindering the group. The majority can vote them out.
It’s majority rule for a reason. It’s the only “fair” way to deal with a population THIS large.
Leave it to the group for self policing.
The fair way to deal with a population this large is to remove the deserter buff entirely. It’s not a big deal if someone chooses to leave after the first boss because of a farm because the dungeon will likely repopulate anyways, especially with group finder lol
But I guess people get their kicks out of kicking people because that’s just how it rolls with the WoW community lmao
Then there is no real punishment other than getting removed.
The debuff is there is discourage behavior.
You didn’t get to experience this. It was THAT bad. And if people missed first boss and filled onto the 2nd. You’ll never guess what happened.
Kill 2nd boss, then backfillers would dip and requeue.
Idk why you keep mentioning the debuff when the kick is what you are trying to focus on.
But regardless, it’s probably the most fair way to handle it.
Majority rule of 3, unless it’s a premade, then a 4th is needed.
So quite literally everyone wanted you gone.
I wouldn’t really care, personally, but it’s not my game and I didn’t make the decision to add it.
It got added to curb certain behaviors that Blizzard doesn’t like seeing. It seems they just forgot that changing it to always apply whenever you leave a run regardless of how many bosses were killed might make it more problematic.
And yet it’s still applied to people who are removed for no reason anyways lol
And then they repopulated again. The horror lmao
All I’m getting from this is that it’s okay to ruin the experience of someone else because they’re playing below average in a dungeon that has no stakes involved, but the moment someone does the same to you, it’s unforgivable.
Pot, meet kettle lmao
FFXIV does have this. People are just much nicer over there and willing to let people learn.
FFXIV’s community will forever be its greatest asset.
You keep saying that without realizing there was a reason.
When you say “no reason”, it means you just don’t agree with the reason.
Because you decided to wear green is a reason. You may not like it, but it’s a reason.
Or… failing every mechanic, dying to fixate then asking for a rez on respawn.
Or my personal favorite. Being a blood dk using an agil 1 hander wearing most leather and mail. Overpulling, not using any aoe. Screaming at healer to dispel, when it has an 8 second cd and you overpulled a bunch of hexers.
Then getting kicked and angrily pming everyone and reporting them for bullying. (even though you made it 10-15 minutes through the dungeon with all this nonsense going on)
But… Let’s go with “no reason” as that op also claimed 
Or… add a debuff that punishes any leaving period. Which not only dissuades leavers but also the need to backfill to begin with!
If we had a line up of different kitchen wear, I doubt you could point out the pot or kettle.
Okay, sorry.
Kicking people for petty reasons then lmao
Happy? Would you prefer I call you petty?
I mean you can. But that’s your incorrect and emotional assessment from hearing something you didn’t like.
You think it’s petty, that’s fine, you’re allowed to vote no on it.
Trying to take away a groups ability to have that vote just makes it seem like you get to tell everyone how to play the game, which isn’t a good look for you.
That’s why each group gets to decide for themselves.
My biggest issue in dealing with the community in FFXIV was that it borders into toxic positivity from time to time.
Had more than one occasion where I point out to somebody that X or Y ability would be helpful or preferable compared to what they’re using, and let me just say this, I know why the “you don’t pay my sub” memes exist.
Kicking people in leveling dungeons for wearing greens is 100% petty lol
Maybe you don’t think that’s petty. I would say that’s, again, an indictment of you and not the player.
If that’s what the group wanted to do.
Idk why you keep roping me, as a person, into this.
I have never mentioned how I would go about this rofl.
Telling you how it is is triggering I guess.
I’ve said so many times I rarely ever kick anyone, but the same people I say it to will turn around and tell me I just wanna be able to kick people the lolz. I just lean into it now. None of these people are interested in the cause or having a real conversation about it, they just wanna show everyone how good of a person they are and how bad anyone who disagrees with them is.
Groups can be wrong lol
Bro broke out the “umad?” lmao