totems stay in one place after you cast them.
some do deal damage.
some stun
some give buffs
some even heal
its all very mediocre tho.
so why should we get a new class instead of fixing existing classes
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Hobart Grapplehammer. The NPC in Dalaran. He gives you a Gun that levels with you.
That’s not a class order hall.
None of the classes are Tinkers. so that’s wrong
Engineering doesn’t let me build turrets or fight in a mech.
Mechagnomes tinker with themselves, they’re essentially just doing gnome-experimentation-tinkering but on themselves/others.
I’ve seen requests for an Engineer class since I started playing.
You shot yourself in the foot. Glad you can recognize it’s an Engineer now 
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Actually No. One of them does Damage. It’s called Liquid magma totem, and it’s based off the Firelord from Warcraft 3.
Other than that. Totems are not stationary damage dealers anymore.
You think they’re mutually exclusive!
Oh now I get it. You just don’t know how game design works.
Why do you need an Order hall?
The Original Tinkers were Goblins. Not gnomes.
yes. an Engineer themed class.
A profession is not a class.
New classes typically mesh very well with the themes in the expansion they are introduced in often playing a pivotal role in the plot, and so I would assume a tinker class would be added in a technology themed expansion, probably centered around gnomes/goblins since they are the most obvious choices. People seems pretty indifferent (at best) toward mechagnomes, and goblins are commonly used as comic relief and so I cast doubt on if they can carry an expansion. I see this as a serious barrier to a tinker class being added.
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yeah, again, i saw teh backlash DK and DH brought before brought in line.
not to mention the fact that monks are a buggy mess rn in SL
lets focus on the now. before we add mechagnomes in sky golems who can heal and cast totems and
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Why do you need an Order hall?
Integral to the entire point of Legion which is also advertised as one of the main points as Legion, get an artifact weapon, hang out with other people your class. Also used as a beginning for where you decide to quest in Legion.
The Original Tinkers were Goblins. Not gnomes.
Your point being?
yes. an Engineer themed class.
A profession is not a class.
Exactly, because we don’t need this class.
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Not really a problem if they give them to all/more races.
Pandaren themselves played little role in MoP as Garrosh, Vol’jin, jaina and Varian were the protagonists. Even in WOTLK DKs were just more death themed than anything.
Plus there are more races with higher tech.
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Many people speak of a “Return to Azeroth” expansion after shadowlands. Possibly with a Time skip.
I don’t pretend to know Blizzard next move. But that seems like a fine time to add a tinker class. After a Time skip.
Really? Cause Legion and Wotlk were amazing expansion.
Oh no. A buggy class. That totally has to do with the new class they added right?
Legion isn’t relevant content anymore. So why is it “integral”?
I’m arguing semantics because you have no point.
Playing a Mechagnome hunter makes you a Mechagnome hunter. not a Tinker."
Oh I know this one.
I think we do need this class!
see how easy that was?
Fun fact, we aren’t in legion anymore and never coming back.
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Howdy Averyx you Beauty.
Good to see we share the same opinion on this like usual.
Always a pleasure when you show up.
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you dont remember the Dork Knight slams face on keyboard and gets 2.2k memes?
yes it has a lot to do with a new class being added. i serious hate GD sometimes. you can mention real tangible problems with the game and they’ll just call you a meta slave and whine about hairstyles and skintones and hybrid races.
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I do. I just don’t see why it matters.
Do you think Death Knights are a bad addition to the game?
Someone’s grumpy.
Dude Blizzard can add a new class, and still balance classes.
Or they can not add a new class and not balance classes.
It really doesn’t matter if they add a new class or not.
Legion isn’t relevant content anymore. So why is it “integral”?
Because people quest in it? People level in it. Unless you’re suggesting a Cataclysm-level rework for Legion it won’t happen. Because like you said “Legion isn’t relevant content anymore” and adding things relevant to classes that are 2 expansions ahead of them wouldn’t make any sense.
I’m arguing semantics because you have no point.
Playing a Mechagnome hunter makes you a Mechagnome hunter. not a Tinker."
cough Engineering cough
Oh I know this one.
I think we do need this class!
see how easy that was?
My point was based on the fact that Engineering invalidates the entire concept. You’re just using your own personal opinion which has no merit.
i agree nerf demon hunters
That’s fine.
You don’t need an order hall in order to do those questing zones.
You just need a weapon.
Please show me the Tinker abilities I get from Engineering. Cause I still don’t see em.
A profession does not invalidate a class.
Shamans and DK’s enhance their weapons with magic.
But we still have enchanters
So you admit that adding a new class doesn’t matter and balance is sloppy regardless? I’m still waiting on you to make an arguement here.
The person that thinks a mount is the same as an ability was funny. Can’t even tell if some of these points are serious or not.
I’m not particularly fond of Tinker (don’t think it’s bad either). But, some of the arguments against it are laughably bad. Like, some of y’all are legit trying to act like Engineering has a DPS rotation or something.
Fun to read.
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Like, some of y’all are legit trying to act like Engineering has a DPS rotation or something.
No, but stylistically they could be interpreted as Tinker abilities.
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I really don’t get it.
They just don’t like a tinker class
So they’ll go so far to say that 1 mount and 1 bomb with a 5 minute cooldown counts as a class.
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Hallo frend.
It’s like saying enchanting exist so we can’t have mages or alch exist so monk specs cannot each revolve about their own potions and beverages.
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So… They aren’t a Tinker class. They’re just stylistically similar?