That is disappointing, but reasonable. I think that I will probably just skip Torghast. Thank you for letting me know.
I know this doesnât help with other classes but from a paladins perspective we as a class can just power house through everything as the paladin fantasy is a slow unstoppable powerhouse juggernaut, i dont think any of the 3 hyrbid classes will struggle with the timer. But the pure dps classes probably will.
Itâs not even noticeable (during my testing).
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Oh no, the sky is falling.
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I forgot where i placed my pitchfork.
You misunderstand what peoples complaint is, itâs not about the difficulty. People want to be able to play the game socializing and having fun without being forced to push forward with a timer.
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socializing can be done at the end or beginning of each floor. But fun for me is dominating enemies as brutally and as fast as possible while getting all the good stuff :D. But its understandable the stronger people will have more free time throughout their floors.
Hereâs a crazy idea, you can go fast as possible without a timer.
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Here are some specifics from the alpha:
-These effects donât begin until the 10th floor.
-There is a safe zone at beginning of each floor, until you start clearing.
-one of the sample effects is a 1% damage decrease per two minutes spent out of combat. if you go away for 20 minutes, you will have lost a whopping 10% damage output immediately before the server boots you for inactivity. Time in combat does not count against you.
As presented, these mechanics look extremely forgiving.
tbh the timer will make it to where i wont be disappointed when irl gets in the way and forces me off the game, so i have no complaints, sorry.
Itâs not a timer itâs a soft timer. Most floors will take what like 10-15 minutes going at a regular pace? One of the âtimerâ debuffs is that you lose 1% dmg every 120 seconds. So it would take you 20 minutes to lose 10% damage. Youâll be able to go get the door or whatever and itâs not going to affect you one little bit! Chill out, itâs just meant so that people canât afk and wait for bloodlust
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At that point, wouldnât it be better to just reset cooldowns when you move to a new floor?
The problem they are trying to solve is one that isnât present until you are far past the 10th floor.
While thatâs nice that doesnât solve the problem of being rushed after starting each floor.
Perhaps we are reading different things because the only out of combat ones I see are the mob spawning ones.
They are forgiving if you are constantly moving but people will want to rush because you are punished if you donât. Especially on the higher levels where you need to perform more precisely these will be important to speed through.
All your points can be done without a timer. We have had islands, m+, and visions with timers so itâs fair to have some solo-5 player content that scales and doesnât have a timer.
It scales over time, itâs a timer. One of the effects even does x% of your health per 5 seconds and stacks, if this gets high enough you will simply die which is a timer. If these just had occasional enemies that pursued when out of combat that would be fine but these stack. Youâre right where this probably wonât be that bad in difficulty but I think the social aspects will be bad. Players wonât want you doing anything but rushing and on the higher floors this will be a lot more controversial.
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Iâm disappointed but need to see how it will actually pan out. If the timer is long enough to not make you want to rush through it but short enough to not let you wait 10 minutes before every pull thatâs fine. But like the sanity timer in visions is way too short (at low cloak levels anyway).
Honestly though if their concern is people waiting for long cooldowns (I still donât quite get why this matters in what is intended to be mainly solo content) why not just add a restriction where those are limited to once per floor? Why ruin an amazing idea by once again pushing this speedrunning garbage.
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Honestly⊠This will be a 100% non issue until you get to like floor 100. By that point youâll have so many anima powers youâll be a tiny GodâŠ
I think that one that does %dmg of your health ticks way too fast, hopefully they change it⊠The other ones stacking at a minute or two seem very fair to me. You will be able to sit in there as long as you want with minimal effect.
Kinda hate this argument. EVERYTHING is a timer if you look for a timer.
Itâs not even noticeable. If you want to AFK in Torghast, do it at the start of the floor.
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If itâs 100% a non issue then why have it in place?
Personally I can see many issues even with people playing legitimately. I was watching someone run Torghast they were in mid 30âs floor and it took them 20-30 minutes doing a rather large floor with a boss at the end. They wiped on the boss and thought they werenât strong enough but just barely pulled through in a super intense and long fight. If they had these debuffs they certainly would have lost with something like 30% more magic damage taken. This guy was also going forward constantly so âYou will be able to sit in there as long as you want with minimal effect.â is entirely false. If that were the case there would be no harm in getting rid of the timer.
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When did you watch this? You hit a critical mass of Anima Powers around 40 in ye olde heoric mode. And the difficulty didnât matter anymore.
Torghast right now starts at LVL 25. So in the mid 30s they were missing at least 3/4 of the anima powers they should have had, so that floor shouldâve been more like 15 minutes, and they were doing wayyy less damage than they shouldâve been.
Itâs a non issue because the soft timer is being put in place to stop people waiting for CDs. If you get wife aggro and need to run to the shop for some milk, no problemo. Come back 20 minutes later and youâve lost 10% dmg⊠so what youâre still going to be 2 shotting mobs at higher levels. This is called a non issue.
To be fair, if this spices up the runs thatâd be more interesting. I mean, weâre supposed to be doing this like a billion times before the next expansion⊠so anything to make it more interesting is fine by me.
Ahh of course must have a go go go mentality so we wont notice how bad the content really is.
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