Time to kill the elitism

Other than scheduling which always conflicts with the days/times of Ally mythic raiding guilds, one of the criteria I stress most is a non-toxic environment. I state in my LF guild profiles that I’m a working professional, have fitness as a hobby, etc. just to point out and give a hint that the game is secondary to me. I prefer to be playing with like minded people who can relate yet have also the desire and ability to push high end content.

A guildmate once summed it up for me on finding that balance, “Certain mechanically challenged players can be nice yet drag you down but some of best players are insufferable to be around. You lose either way.”

Regarding addons, it helps me improve. When I tryout a different spec I aim to come close to or beat whatever my sim DPS is by practicing on target dummies. It is my personal contribution to the group doing the most output I can to beat those encounters.

That’s interesting.

I find it doesn’t matter if someone has an io of 300 or 3k or a rating of 300 or an r1 - bad apples come from everywhere. And more so from ppl who can’t handle mistakes.

I’d rather do LFR vs playing with ppl who check logs and demand orange/pink parses.

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You’re right but considering post 9.1 Mythic+ activity fell off an absolute cliff… I’m not sure it accomplished what they were hoping. Of course, that could be coincidental just given WoW itself going down a blackhole as far as users for so many freaking reasons.

You are sitting here acting like people blindly invited people to groups for high end content before things like gearscore and RIO were incorporated into the game. This quite literally never happened as people have always used some form of a metric regardless if blizzard had it viewable in game or not.

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You won’t. You can quell it but to some even running a dungeon is elitist because some refuse to do them.

Just like the whole casual vs hardcore… it’s incredibly subjective

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All I’m sitting here saying in a thread about elitism is that Blizzard literally implimented elitism in 9.1.

You can’t tell me there’s no difference between an unsanctioned 3rd party add-on… and Blizzard just implementing it directly into the game and essentially forcing everyone to use it, like it or not.

No. Damage meters and logs are a key part of the game.

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I don’t really do Mythic + so maybe I’m just missing out on the drama, but adding a feature to the game that people already used anyway doesn’t sound like “implementing elitism” into the game. That doesn’t sound like “callsin it like you sees it” it sounds like your opinion.

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There’s no such thing. Any addon or website that uses data publicly available in the api is sanctioned.

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That’s splitting hairs, but fine.

You can’t tell me there’s no difference between a 3rd party add-on… and Blizzard just implementing it directly into the game and essentially forcing everyone to use it, like it or not.

no fun adventure and comradery is

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That’s not elitism, that’s called having standards.

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Yes, it is. Find your tribe, friend.

This isn’t a Blizzard thing. This is an us thing.

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Lol. Okay Billy Zane.

“It’s elitist to give players the tools to exclude others based on experience.”
“It’s not elitism, it’s having standards.”

If ever a comment made the point for me.

Ya’ll have fun.

I am so burned out from things I used to do that are “meaningful” and the ppl I played with regularly. Having so much fun being a filthy casual.

Yes. The end.

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There has always been some kind of gatekeeping. In Vanilla, the group leader would just inspect your gear at the bank.

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They really should just make realms for competition and normal realms for people who just want to play the game.

Then the elite players would be on realms with other good to players and they wouldn’t need the add-ons to ensure they never have to play with casuals.

The only problem with that is they would have no one to sell carries to.

i don’t understand why everyone who hates elitism and rio and ilvl don’t just form groups with each other. nobody has yet been able to explain that in a way that makes and sense.

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That’s a fair question. The answer is they do. What other choice do they have?

But there’s so much crap in 9.1 that you’re expected to just deal with yourself (since Blizzard gives other players all the tools they need to exclude you) that most returning players just give up and leave.

I mean, what other answer is there?