TIL I can never get Slime Cat Mount

[Tovi-moon-guard (Tovi)]

@Wellfleet-malganis

I don’t understand why

I did explain why but you didn’t quote that part.

And I 100% agree with Snozy on this. “FOMO” is a personal problem and I don’t mean that in a nasty way.

There are plenty of mounts, mogs, pets, titles, etc. that are removed from the game every season, every xpac and people don’t “fear” their removal. If you notice, people’s fears are very specific and it’s usually for things they think they could get only if they were playing, weren’t lazy or whatever excuse they come up with.

Do you ever see people say “hey Blizz I want gladiator mounts returned”? I’ll answer that for you since I’m a no-lifer that’s on the forum every day: no, you don’t. Why? Because people know they wouldn’t be able to get them even if they were brought back. They’re very very hard rewards to obtain.

[Kravmagha-azralon]

@Tovi-moon-guard

I wouldn’t be happy if they brought it back for 700 tenders.

Pugging for that cat was hell. Not because the raids were hard, it was because people are horrid. I put up with those horrid people because I was told the cat was getting removed.

The quickest way to get someone like me to stop participating in events, seasons, whatever is to bring back rewards and make them 10x easier to get at a later date.

If that’s what Blizzard wants? For people to procrastinate? Then fine, put every thing on the TP for 700 tender, and that includes gladiator and KSM mounts. However if they’re goal is to get people to participate in content while it’s current then no they should not bring back items they told us were going away.

Rare thread where I can quote a whole wall of text from Tovi and agree with everything he said.

Although I am ok with them bringing it back after a good while.
An easy example, I had the tyrael mount and I think 10y later bringing it back was ok, so if you wanna wait to 34 I’m good with that

[Vicktoria-area-52 (Vicktoria)]

It’s not cute, you are not missing anything

[Hawkness-area-52]

The slime cat looks a green blob on my screen unless I zoom in. It runs funny and over all isn’t as aesthetically pleasing as other mounts.

Not sure why it had to be FOMO, but I agree it will probably find its way either onto the BMAH or the trading post.

[Snozy-pagle]

@Sakimayu-stormrage

Sources? I usually take a quick look at WoW Progress (which to my understanding scrapes from Bnet, like RIO) to get the lay of the land and it seems to paint a very un-pretty picture for raiding. It’s better this tier (10.0 might’ve been scuffed because any Mythic progress takes priority over AOTC for ranking there, and apparently Raz was such a pain on heroic that 2/8M was easier than AOTC) but seems pretty dang anemic

Tracked achievement percentages.

Heroic and mythic have seperate achievements. Normal and LFR share the same ones.

@Sakimayu-stormrage

Many middling realms are claimed to have two or three thousand active raiders. Are there really only 4-5k or so max level characters left per faction on a big realm cluster like Silvermoon &c (where my Horde characters are lately, since Turalyon died D-E-D dead) that claims to be a “high” pop realm (trying to avoid the super duper huge Horde realms as server congestion/instability and the promise of queues don’t appeal to me, and there’s way too much spam)? Only 50-60k active players left even on A52 or Illidan (since those have 30-35k “active raiders” - which WoWProg defines as Heroic - and you suggest 60% participation)?

Achievements are tracked and the percentage of accounts with raid achievements are above 60%.

[Snozy-pagle]

@Sakimayu-stormrage

Not the server forums, but the ingame guild browser. It paints a horrendously gloomy picture when the guilds that have people still enthusiastically describe preparing for Shadowlands, LOL.

No one uses the in game guild browser. There’s your main issue. Everything is done via discord now.

@Sakimayu-stormrage

Perhaps another issue, stability and a steady group of long term friends is something important to me, not so much the job/sport mindset that seems to be all over the place anymore. But apparently we’re just expected to bunnyhop from guild to guild and even a specific guild is often just a temporary arrangement now? Only at the CE level or “giving up on raiding” are you allowed to put down any sort of loyalty and roots?

I changed guilds because they weren’t at the level I was told they were. I’m looking for a guild that will make a casual attempt at CE while going deeper into the tier.

Every guild I joined was a heroic level guild pretending to have the organization of a mythic guild. I left on good terms and still catch heroic alt runs with them on occasion.

Only one guild did I leave because my schedule changed. I started shooting league pool on Wednesday nights and they raided Tuesday/Wednesday.

[Ardmccloud-frostmourne]

@Snozy-pagle

Achievements are tracked and the percentage of accounts with raid achievements are above 60%.

Must be a pretty small number for it to be 60%.

I’d love to see the raw data you’re pulling these assumptions from.

[Snozy-pagle]

@Ardmccloud-frostmourne

Must be a pretty small number for it to be 60%.

It’s not. You just can’t fathom that most people that play this game partake in group content at some level.

[Ardmccloud-frostmourne]

@Snozy-pagle

It’s not. You just can’t fathom that most people that play this game partake in group content at some level.

Ahh you can show me the raw stats and prove me wrong then.

[Snozy-pagle]

@Ardmccloud-frostmourne

Ahh you can show me the raw stats and prove me wrong then.

I would but you will just ignore them again like you have every other time they have been linked to you.

Not interested in your constant backpedaling and deflecting.

[Ardmccloud-frostmourne]

If you had no fear of it being disproven or interpreted in another way, then I would see something by now.

I’ll just have to assume that it’s made up.

[anon62157267]

Yeah, I’ll be honest I would like to see this too because 60% seems awfully high. Maybe LFR but certainly not anything higher than that?

[Snozy-pagle]

@Ardmccloud-frostmourne

If you had no fear of it being disproven or interpreted in another way, then I would see something by now.

I had no fear the 4 times I and Capslock have already linked you the numbers where you either disappear or move goal posts.

@Ardmccloud-frostmourne

I’ll just have to assume that it’s made up.

Assume anything you want. You’re wrong as usual.

[Ardmccloud-frostmourne]

@Snozy-pagle

I had no fear the 4 times I and Capslock have already linked you the numbers where you either disappear or move goal posts.

It seems to have changed now.

Either way all you have left is vitriol, it seems.

[Snozy-pagle]

@anon62157267

Yeah, I’ll be honest I would like to see this too because 60% seems awfully high. Maybe LFR but certainly not anything higher than that?

60% of the playerbase has some sort of raid boss kill at one of the three achievement levels. (LFR/normal share an achievement heroic and then mythic) with heroic being the most popular. This is all backed by achievements and warcraft logs.

[anon62157267]

@Snozy-pagle

60% of the playerbase has some sort of raid boss kill at one of the three achievement levels. (LFR/normal share an achievement heroic and then mythic) with heroic being the most popular. This is all backed by achievements and warcraft logs.

I don’t think LFR is representative of actual raiding. What is the percentage of normal and up? Where are you getting these numbers, can you link them for me? I’m just curious.

[Ratjay-bloodhoof]

If im hitting Kitchenwrath ( or whatever that things name is ) in a suffusion camp fight along with other random players, is that group content?

[Burkkins-moon-guard]

Most people, maybe. But it’ll bring in enough participation, and that’s what matters to them.

[Snozy-pagle]

@Ardmccloud-frostmourne

It seems to have changed now.

It’s never changed.

@Ardmccloud-frostmourne

Either way all you have left is vitriol, it seems.

You mean facts based on history of a known troll?

[Dyscord-icecrown]

“up to 60%** have killed at least 1 boss on LFR or higher” = most people in the game are raiders

dude just go into politics, its clear your relationship with the truth is at least as lax as those people, you’d fit right in, those is you homies bro