soar change looks fine. so you fly 30% slower but so what? still looks fun to use in old zones
Exactly my point. So what? So what if Druids can do herbalism with flying? So what if Shamans can Astrall Recall? So what if Mages can teleport? So what if Vulpera can set up a hearth to any coordinates in the open world?
All of the above add distinction and flavour and fun.
None of the above can be “overpowered” as there is no power involved.
So… why? Why nerf it? It’s not the nerf that matters. It’s that the nerf happened at all that is worrisome.
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but mages can also port you, soar cant make you fly faster if you not evoker.
In which instance is there a Mage waiting to teleport you at the end?
the instance that there is a mage in my group.
Revert the change Blizzard. Do what’s right for your audience.
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This entire thread just reads as someone who wants to main evoker just for the fact that they can fly faster than everyone else. If evoker is a fun good class (which lets be honest it will prob be op), then the soar nerf does really affects you that much to complain.
Why would there ever be a Mage in my group when I feel like a quick clear of BWL at 4AM, followed by, say, BT?
For a race that can only be one class, which can in turn only be that race, thus making all of their racials class abilities, and their class abilities racials. Resetting everyone’s movement cooldown for the entire raid is FAR more OP as a racial than Soar, yet no one complains about that. Why not? Can dwarves use that ability? How about tauren? No, only Dracthyr can. But because it is called a “class ability” instead of a “racial,” people are okay with it. If Blizzard moved Soar to the class portion of the spell book, would it still need to be nerfed? Because at this point, whether it’s a Dracthyr racial or an Evoker class ability is a meaningless and purely cosmetic difference. No one is going have to reroll their Death Knight to Dracthyr because of Soar. And if they do decide to add more classes to the race in the future, then THAT will be the time to take a second look at their racials, and not before.
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You’re missing the forest for the trees.
The details of the nerf are immaterial.
It’s that the nerf happened at all that is worryingly revealing of a certain attitude still being present within Blizzard’s ranks that ostensibly was quashed. “Fun detected” is a meme for a reason, and it looks like that philosophy is still going strong. So much for “listening” and getting back to basics.
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All equally bad mistakes that never should’ve been made.
I mean a lot of people think fun is when they are way more op than everyone else, or their class race is miles ahead better at one thing than everyone else. Evoker will be fun as a healer(prob the best for m+) and the dps spec will be up there, they have ridiculous strong racial abilities for pvp and aoe m+ (knock backs or ups). Blizzard just nerf one tinny thing, that is NOT that crazy honestly and everyone is like “blizz has not change they destroy things when they see fun detected”.
I don’t know looks like you just focusing on one dead tree rather than appreciating the forest.
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I think evoker is, as a class, kind of stupid. IMO Dragon-people is an overdone trope by now and they should be big beefy tanky Bozak’s in full plate leading the charge as shock troops, not standing back and pretending to be mages with a 5 color MTG deck.
That being said: IMO soar just shouldn’t be nerfed in old content, it shouldn’t be available in old content at all. It’s kind of cool of course, but why give them a double-speed fly? And if you’re cool with them having a double-speed fly, then why is a triple-speed fly bad?
I just don’t understand why they made this problem for themselves.
If Soar wasn’t available in old content, then it wouldn’t be an issue.
If the intent is to unlock dragonflying in older zones, then why not unlock soar at that time?
If you reduce it to simpler basic questions then it’s just silly why they let it all get to this point. It’s also silly the reasons they gave. Things like being able to collect battle pets more efficiently… what? They just keep making it worse.
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There’s a difference between balance and flavour. Soar has nothing to do with player power, thus, by definition, cannot be overpowered.
And my concern is with the arsonist that just burnt down that dead tree after saying that had learned their lesson about starting fires. I don’t care that there is a single dead tree in the forest - I want to make sure that the entire forest doesn’t burn down, even if a single tree is inconsequential.
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oh man give my 4 legged chunker beef dragon tanks, i would play that all day
I don’t think that Dragonspawn are on the table, but Drakonids?
See, you just unironically stated the entire problem and didn’t even realize it. They DO have ridiculously strong racials for PvP and M+, and yet no one complains about these, and Blizzard feels no need to nerf them.
Instead, they pick the racial that does not give an advantage in competitive content, but which people were having a lot of fun with, and nerfed it because of Pet Battle balance.
That is literally “fun detected,” and somehow you don’t see the problem.
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The tree died by it self so the forest could flourish. No arsonist.
Also flying faster in open worst can be player power, would be amazing for ganking or just swarms of wpvp (on server that are a thing) leveling faster would also be kind of op in a sense because you can move faster.
They should just keep it to DF and not let them fly at all in old world content.
Everyone literally complained about the racials, but then people said lets wait and see how broken they really are in pvp when all classes tree and pvp talents are out.
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