Lol, you really think they can regulate que times, if only 20 tanks que a day thats 20 groups a day…period 1+1=2, all they can do is encourage more tanks to que or create bots to fill the missing roles.
i realized that all anti-lfd crowd are either selfish people who doesn’t care about any socializing or dumb ignorants.
Sure, it’s not hard. Call it patience if you prefer.
It still requires more involvement than RDF. 
I don’t think you understand what’s being said. I’ll try to dumb it down for you. If you’ve never actually used RDF, maybe just sit this one out.
You hop in the queue, assuming as a healer or DPS because tanks don’t wait for groups, groups are waiting in line for a tank. The RDF shows average time in queue (estimated) and your time in queue. Once those numbers are equal, it starts looking through other servers for a group for you.
Jeepers, that was even more simple than I realized!
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How is it different, please enlighten me? Its a grouping tool and tbh only really used it in retail and pretty much functioned same way.
This is pure pedantry then on your part.
The one extra step is enough in your mind to call forming a 5 man group work.
Does the one step of advertising in LFG mean so much that you wont accept that there are virtually no difference in the effort involved? The players, depending on server, are still essentially more often then not going to be randoms you never see again, just like RDF.
Time invested between the two is negligible in group forming. You either spend X time asking in chat or Y time in a Q. You get randoms either way generally unless you know everyone on your server or run with primarily guildies or people on your friends list. Whoch at that point RDF shouldnt generally effect you.
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So then why is boosting being used as a club in this debate when, as you purport, it has no chance of existing in a Wrath environment?
Dungeon Finder didn’t come packaged with a new (easier) difficulty for a start. Nobody here is seriously arguing for Raid Finder to be added to Wrath on account of it didn’t come into being until Cataclysm. You’re just making more noise for the sake of … I don’t know. What do you get out of this?
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you first said troubles then said hard work then now you’re saying more involvement, can you please set up your mind? and again are you even playing current classic tbcc?
for 5man dungeons.
-everyone use macros to just copy > past their message in chat & wait till someone whispers “inv”
-everyone relay on using 3rf party addons that gets you into groups without talking to anyone.
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When 3.3 hit they changed the way dungeon daily quests worked so that a tank could run multiple groups for the emblems if they wanted to. So those twenty could have easily been 25, 30, 50 runs vs the old 20.
3.3 was a game changer.
For myself, I’m not sure I agree with the claim that it has no chance of existing in Wrath or that it didn’t exist. I don’t remember seeing it much, but - I had friends, guildmates, and Heirlooms and past a certain point, the dungeon finder so I didn’t ever feel the need to be power-leveled.
I also didn’t see as much boosting and HR>SR dungeons in TBC as I see now, so I am concerned about how much boosting might end up in Wrath and I am in favor of any attempts to curb that behavior, even nerfing dungeon exp when there’s too large of a level gap. Even if RDF stays out.
No, specifically Zaalg is arguing that removing RDF promotes boosting as a practice.
Are you declaring here that you explicitly disagree?
But you just said boosting is broken in Wrath, so how does it factor in to the RDF equation?
You are not everyone.
100k download doesn’t mean 100k people are actively using the addon either. You’re just projecting your warped version of reality when it comes to LFG.
Ya I used it, but back then we called it “noob finder” btw time in que is just a timer, average wait time is just that an average of past wait times, que means you wait in line, linear throughput and output. First come first serve. I dont know the specifics of all the if and or therefore but thats the way it works for bgs
Absent any other changes it definitely makes boosting more attractive as a method to level. Even with some of the changes that have been made in SoM, some industrious players will find other ways to speed up the leveling process.
Yup, it’s a complete strawman.
By the way, apparently he wants battleground finder removed to because, you know, it groups people together so it’s exactly the same as dungeon finder.
the 100k addon is just 1 addon to auto group you without saying a word.
but the LFG bb have 480k downloads and everyone use it to avoid any social interaction.
because “LFD” existence have nothing to do with any social interaction and it only prevent the current abuses.
i don’t care if you hate on lfd to abuse the game the way you wants but stop telling lies about caring for social aspects when you’re the one destroying socializing with your abuses.
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Only with finding a group.
With LFD people can go do something else in game instead of staring at an add on or chat and playing whack a mole hoping they get into a group. And that is much more meaningful involvement.
Similar to the view you present of making a group in LFG. Projecting a level of involvement that is not at all as hard or involved as you make it seem?