Using LFD in general is socializing, with or without having to say a word.
Your long-winded post is nothing more than your subjective view on what socializing is.
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“Community” does not include players on other realms.
Socialization with LFD randoms is about equivalent to talking to an NPC.
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i played 11months in wotlk with LFD, i enjoyed using it with my guild and my friends, i had alot of run because lfd existed for those 11months in original wrath & one of my best friends for 12years in wow we met via random dungeon finder.
this is my classic experience during 2010.
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From the person that always ends up convoluting subjectivity and objectivity. Sure.
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If you are a Wrath baby who joined when LFD was added and from this is where you draw your happy memories of WOTLK, safely, I can tell you that you are not the target audience for the Classic franchise.
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Great post.
I agree on a lot of it.
I just think there can be a good middle ground that doesn’t mean such a radical move as to either exclude or include LFD and there can be a version of it that would satisfy the needs of both parties.
While it’s impossible to make everyone happy, it’s pretty heavy handed of Blizzard to strip the feature entirely rather than think of a more moderate solution like they are planning to do with dual spec.
For example, I personally would rather they not touch dual spec but I welcome a compromise over having dual spec entirely removed.
you claim that people you meet in rdf can’t be part of your community?
how is this even possible!!! you know players from different servers can still add each other on real id to be able to re-group again later, and they can friend eachother, do alot of socializing and also server transfer exist for a reason, which allow your friends from other servers to move and join your guild if you invited them to it.
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Are you unable to make the connection between why people think it harms the community?
Nobody is saying socializing doesn’t exist with a random group, it’s just pointed towards entities that have no impact on your wider community.
This isn’t complicated arithmetic or anything.
Really? Is that why your side is trying to carry over the removal of LFD and R well into Cata and MoP, what can be considered expacs that are more retail-like than classic?
All I see here is a bunch of Hypocrisy and contradiction.
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You clearly misunderstood what Zipzo said here. 
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I don’t even want a classic cata or MOP etc. These expansions are “too far gone” in their original design as is, and I’d like to see a Classic+ new expansion instead. You’d have to change too much to keep those expansions Classic.
We can all dream.
If you remove Specializations and LFR from Cata, most of Cata was pretty good. The return of heroics being hard was a good change back to form.
Let me go ahead and add a lack of accountability on your part.
When BC started, I was running dungeons your way; putting groups together, asking to join, etc.
Suddenly everyone migrates out of my server and because I decided to choose to stay and ask for LFD as compensation, I’m in the wrong?
They engineered this degenerative environment that destroyed my “community”.
It seemed pretty clear to me that the message you both sent is that using LFD isn’t socializing, ignoring the fact that just before everyone migrated I was running dungeons the traditional way.
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There is no community in TBC to harm. What they’re talking is utter nonsense.
The only socializing in the game is done in guilds, which LFD has no impact on.
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Why not? Server identity isn’t the greatest social construct in the world to cling to, even if Blizzard had started out with that intention at the beginning of Classic and put mechanisms in place to stem the flow that inevitably led to mega-servers that have no identity and much less a sense of community.
They’ve got the technology to bring the entirety of classic together as one big community and make servers irrelevant - and do it the right way this time, but no. They (and unfortunately you) seem to be stuck in a 2007 mindset.
You are flat out wrong, but if that’s really how you think it explains a lot.
If the target audience is that small then there’s no point for Blizzard to continue classic. It’s not sustainable.
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How convenient for you that your classic was when you had all the demographics under one expac.
You were fine with me playing classic as it was but as we move towards Lich and my desire to play it as it was or at least as close as possible to it, not so much.
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Community and socializing are what anyone wants to make of it. Here you and I are from different servers discussion topics.
I’ve even run into a few of the forum posters out here in Random BGs, whom unfortunately I had to bury my axe in their head over it.
All of us here, pro and con, are the community for the simple fact that we are all WoW players.
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Not saying it is, but it is a “Classic” one.
If this is what you think then you forget how Classic came about to begin with, let me remind you, it was not to please anyone who is remotely a fan of most new systems added since WOTLK.
i’m aware that 2022 classic is a game filled with boosts at every direction, it’s a heaven for real money traders, Bots / gold selling & gold buying reign supreme.
in such environment…a tool such as lfd that help players “level up, get basic loots for free” will not be welcomed.
But you’re from a different server. Might as well be an NPC. We’re not communicating and interacting with each other, clearly.
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