I can guarantee you that this opinion is not shared with most of your peers (who want LFD back).
Most people on your side of the fence view “tedium” as unnecessary and illegitimate when it comes to defining difficulty.
This argument plays out every time Blizzard does anything to preserve the tedium of more classic elements and players very alike those who want LFD back argue that it does nothing to increase the difficulty of older WoW and so it’s pointless.
I don’t need an infomercial to convince me LFD is good for the game. My personal experience has done this already.
Right, this wasn’t a problem, so Blizzard never added the no-kick time at the beginning (which ended up encouraging people to AFK and ninja.) Sit this one out. You don’t know what you are talking about and it’s obvious. Listen to the people warning you how bad it really was.
That’s fine because LFD was never part of those games anyway. It WAS part of WotLK though, which is why it should be added for that.
To alot of people getting a bad group is preferable to getting no group. Its really that simple. Sure LFD had alot of garbage associated with it…and its well known and people STILL want it. That should speak to how rough of a time people are having.
If Blizz has a better idea, a better system ready to roll out…I’m willing to listen. In the absence of that better system many like me want the system we were anticipating being released. Just want groups, thats all its about.
You aren’t forced to. Make your own group and you’ll never have to play with the bads and noobs.
Odd, according to most pro rdf, there is no downside to rdf…
You seem to be in the minority for those for rdf because you at least acknowledge there are downsides to it.
I was there in 3.3. It wasn’t that bad. Sometimes people went AFK and had to be kicked, but no one was booted as soon as they zoned in.
Yup, never. And even people going afk was very, very rare. Occasionally someone would just leave without notice. Who knows what rl emergency they might have. And thanks to dungeon finder, refilling the group is a painless process.
There was almost no drama in wrath dungeons in my experience.
nice idea mr.smart, so i have to make my own group every time i wanna go any dungeon? if everyone did that? we will all be making groups and no one is left to join.
apart from that, if a tank or healer saw 2people advertising in chat lfm (tank), 1saying “full f6 group need tank” the other is just a simple group that need tank, what do you think with your tiny mind will happen? ofc the tank will join the t6 group, which is one of the reasons elites wanna be don’t want lfd feature so they can ninja take tanks/healers easily, and ofc more reasons for them, so they can be selfish and reserve every item they need.
LFD is a feature that must be in game to eliminate the current anti-social behavior, it’s called “random dungeon finder” For a reason, so randoms can use it, if you hate it this much? why would you want to play a game which originally had it?
anyway lfd should never effect those who already making their own groups, and it has nothing to do with end game content, so this is why i truly believe that anti-lfd are “boosters or trolls or dumb or selfish people or doing real money trades”
for the million time i’m saying to those who never seen lfd in original wotlk if they claim that “you can vote kick anyone” No you couldn’t, if you use vote kick more than 3times per hour u won’t be able to use it for the rest of the day, if you used it later in same day, your character will be prevented from using kick feature or even voting to kick anyone for the whole week. Kick system can’t be abused as you claim.
This is probably because the downsides weren’t anything new really. People being jerks, or poor players, or ninjas, serial AFK-ers…nothing you don’t get in manual grouping, it was just a higher volume (mainly because you could run more dungeons more often). LFD didn’t introduce some new rogue element that wouldn’t exist without LFD, so its easy to gloss over the crap LFD had with it…but for sure, LFD had crap. And I’d like that crap back pretty please…bad group > no group.
You realize they’re just trolling, right? Two second google search and anyone can read how vote kick worked in wrath: https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Vote_Kick
You can clearly see there’s systems in place to prevent abuse. But don’t worry when that argument of theirs falls apart, they’ll make some other nonsense. And so on and so on.
Not that that’s any argument to begin with. “Hey guys, the toxic behavior from lfg will just transfer to lfd.” What an amazing endorsement for removing dungeon finder. 
i’m not taking the side of LFD lovers on a personal matters, i just dislike the lie of blizzard and everyone else claiming that LFD is anti social when “boosts/reserve/pay to join/layers” are the true anti social aspect which will drive any player away and will kill many current player motivation to play.
in the end, i’m not asking for blizzard to send me free gear via mail, i only want a feature that existed in original wotlk 3.3 to exist in classic wotlk if they’re releasing it on 3.3
it should actually say slow to form group > no group, as that is the actual situation. its a time problem, not a doesnt exist problem. what you want tho is quick group > slow to form group and i’m not entirely convinced quick is ideal. clearly slow isnt ideal either, but one results in people interacting, summoning and so on, and the other is an impersonal but efficient run to the end.
“For players who frequently vote to kick other players, the Vote Kick option will be kept on a cooldown”
i remember in wotlk 1 of my friends who was abusing vote kick, he was not able to vote kick again till the weekly reset
also you can’t instant vote kick people “A vote to kick a member may not be initiated in the first 15 minutes of a group.” you probably can clear the dungeon in 15min, this is for those who claim that you’ll wait 1hour queue to instantly get kicked from the dungeon once u join.
That’s what I’m saying. People who don’t know how the system even worked just…making things up. But imagine the mentality of someone trying to argue against dungeon finder saying…
"If you add dungeon finder, I will abuse the vote kick system! I will kick people I don’t like. I will kick people who speak a different language (guess which chad said that), I will kick people for any number of reasons.”
Is that supposed to convince anyone that lfd should be removed? Yeah, let’s keep supporting that elitist gatekeeping toxic behavior. Obviously not, which is why I’ve said a few times I am delighted these guys are showing their true colors. Blizz, THIS is what removing lfd encourages.
for the record, i never, in 14+ years of playing wow, initiated a vote kick, and rarely agreed to vote kicks initiated by others either. so it isn’t that set in stone.
My experience as well. I think the only time we ever kicked anybody was if they went AFK for a while. Other than that, I got kicked once over 1000’s of runs because I called the tank a noob for pulling the entire Scarlet cathedral at once and getting us killed.
For the most part the anti’s sound like the exact kind of people I wouldn’t want to group with. Ohhh, you have a +7 agi gem instead of the +9? Votekick!