I don’t have a problem with a tool for leveling dungeons, it’s a good method to accelerate xp gain and to expose new players to dungeon content they might otherwise not see.
for any max level content it’s just a mess
if those players wanna group with each other with those conditions, then them do it, while you can simply make your own group by filtering them, you don’t have to use the same tool they’re using and cry about meeting with them
unfortunately the existence of a tool hugely depletes the available pool of people to form your own group from.
I strongly doubt people will monitor LFG chat after queuing up for a random dungeon.
funny thing about the boosts is…many don’t even want you leaving the entry. I’ve seen ad say explicitly no following.
So its not a case of lazy players wanting the afk always. its a requirement for the run lol.
Some take this as a last resort. Begged for an hour…I get not wanting to leave the place empty handed. Monastery especially. Not the easiest journey for a 30’s alliance char. Just takes one mob to see you to make it “interesting”.
when I go there…a run will happen. even if I have to pull my 2nd account with some time left to leave outland to self carry lol.
Tried free begging…didn’t work. PLan B can happen.
It’s amazing that this elitist gatekeeping nonsense is what Blizz is trying to protect.
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Elitist gatekeeping? Come on mate, i simply just want some control over who I’m grouping with.
LFD tool will kill LFG chat completely, making this extremely difficult.
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Nothing stops you from forming groups with your fellow alpha gamers.
I truly pray the Classic devs read threads like this. Nothing I could say would demonstrate how the removal of lfd creates a toxic game and playerbase more than simply reading your posts.
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same, and i wish for them to try playing this game to have measures before taking actions.
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elitist gatekeeping
alpha gamers
toxic playerbase
the language here is very one-sided and your emotional hyperbole is making it difficult to take you seriously.
all i want is to avoid being forced into a group with ‘absebbsekal’ the indonesian troll frost mage, keyboard turning and casting blizzard on single mobs, pressing need on every item and completely ignoring chat. This is not hyperbole, it’s a very common occurrence on my realm if you do not screen your groups.
Not wanting to push through an entire heroic with this person does not make me a toxic elitist gatekeeper.
the mere existence of an LFD tool will decimate the pool of activate players monitoring LFG chat, so even if I do choose to ignore the tool and form my own groups it’ll take an unreasonable amount of time.
Random grouping tools don’t work in a game that doesn’t have any kind of MMR/ELO system built into it, one that requires effective communication to be fun and successful on a realm with multiple regions accessing it.
it just creates conflict and exceptionally unfun experiences.
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If only they had a model to study. in place…already.
the name escapes me. Oh well…maybe it will come to me after I sign up for a retail mythic dungeon.
See some pro-lfd’ers, we can make a deal!
Normal only. all I want…Stay in ashenvale, get monastery once an hour even with bad DPS wait. This is all I want. Quest in ashenvale to progress decent…see what that library run gets me loot and xp wise. BLiss has been obtained.
leaves heroic to the non scrubs.
scrubs like me get to fumble around…the gods of wow get their heroics intact. We all could win.
Oh no, players don’t have to buy your dungeon services!!! What a terrible loss.
Your gatekeeping is a you problem. This game is for everyone and everyone should be able to play. You don’t like it, form your own groups. Again, nothing stops you from doing this.
And also, since you clearly never played Wrath…you don’t need to nitpick and min/max dungeons. They are faceroll.
Sorry your boosting services might take a hit, but lfd makes the game much better and less toxic.
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dungeon services
boosting services
clearly never played Wrath
Dude, what? Are you even reading what I’m typing?
don’t need to nitpick and min/max dungeons
Of course you don’t NEED to, but we’re talking the difference of 30 mins of clean fun gameplay vs 1 hour of screaming into the void trying to get uncooperative players to do something very basic.
It’s not fun or fair for anyone involved, especially the new/bad/non-communicative player.
form your own groups. Again, nothing stops you from doing this.
I’ve per-emptively addressed this meme multiple times already. LFD will decimate the pool of active players in LFG chat, making this a very difficult and time consuming task compared to what it currently is. Very few people are going to queue up for their random fun time dungeon and then monitor LFG chat simultaneously.
lfd makes the game much better and less toxic.
yes vote kicking random people you have no connection with because they upset you or are too slow / bad is very un toxic
looking forward to the torrent of videos/screenshots of ‘LFD idiots’ due to situations created exclusively by the LFD tool that wouldn’t otherwise exist if we had a choice over who we group with.
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For the fourth time, then form your own groups.
I actually think you’re a pro-lfd poster who’s making these ridiculous posts to show how insane the elitist gatekeeping is. But then I see your character’s name and you’re probably sincere.
I knew the booster and gdkp crowd were toxic, but had no idea how bad it was.
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Booster
boosting
booOOoOOOssting!!
What are you huffing?
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Then why do you even care?
Like seriously. If you literally do not engage in the activity that you are trying to decry on how people do said content, than your opinion and voice on the topic literally means nothing.
You are actively just inciting arguments and openly trolling at this point.
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Telling me it’s a terrible thing because players who want to do dungeons don’t have to come crawling to the likes of you to be prodded and judged and critiqued and denied because of their spec, gear, or the language they speak is not a compelling argument.
Actually it is. For why dungeon finder is essential.
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At this point I’m more confident than I have ever been that the people de-crying the “damage” the RDF does to the "Community’ (Which cannot be proven) are literally just people trolling for attention because their lives are lacking in anything actually meaningful.
At this point probably best to just mute the serial trolls and stop engaging with them.
They have no value arguments, and do not approach the subject in good faith, and have openly admitted they refuse to participate in pugging dungeons anyways, so their opinion on the matter, literally means nothing, because they are not the target audience for such features.
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At least this guy was honest that he wants to gatekeep players.
I just wish the Classic devs realized these are the types against lfd. It has nothing to do with community. I knew that from the start and the anti-lfd people are starting to show their true colors.
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Why can’t they make their own group with other like-minded players?
I’m not stopping them participating in content, so stop copy-pasting the word ‘gatekeeping’ because it simply does not apply.
Do you think it’s fun for them to be pushed hard, out of their capabilities by stronger players they’ve been forced to group with? Do you think it’s fun for them to get grouped with people who don’t speak their language?
All of your points hang on the assumption that new / bad /non-english players very much enjoy getting dragged kicking and screaming at high speed through a dungeon by pissed off ““elitists””.
ultimately the problem is not what they want, what i want or what you want in terms of a gaming experience. the problem is mashing all of those expectations, experiences, competencies and languages together completely at random and expecting it to not result in conflict.
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are we talking about tbc/wrath heroics or mythic raids/M+ ? cause I’m yet to see those “stronger players” and dificult things in classic
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