This is it?

No more class balance for the rest of the season or what?

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Tough. Kinda feels like it. Not much incentive to at this point.

that’s right, we only get a fixed amount per season

now lets bow down to our feral and devoker overlords

I dont even know where the 700k DPS these devokers pull off comes from, I don’t feel like they actually do a lot of damage

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The game is perfectly balanced. Any more changes would cause the jenga tower the devs have masterfully crafted to come crashing down.

We’ve legit gotten tuning every 2 weeks like clockwork. Should have announcements friday/monday for upcoming tuesday.

Hoping for nerfs to bdk, feral, sp, bm and buffs to fire mage, dh, dk, ww, rdruid, rsham.

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700k ? Was in 2 shuffles today and Devoker doing over a million dps and almost 2mil burst

They just need to bring every dps up to feral/bm levels, nerf tank specs damage, and buff healers 5-15%.

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Do you live in some kind of alternative reality? We haven’t gotten tuning in several weeks besides a miniscule nerf to BM. DH, DK have been left in the dumpster for months. Windwalker is also pretty bad, especially in high elo. DK players are literally playing blood because their two DPS specs are so horrendous.

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That counts as tuning so he’s technically correct.

Nope! Living in this one. Every 2 weeks.

Weve seen several buffs and nerfs to sp/feral, nerfs to aff, nerfs to frost mage, nwrfs to all 3 rogue specs, buffs to demo and destro, buffs and nerfs to boomy, buffs to rdruid, rsham, hpriest, hpal, and mw, nerfs to disc and pres, nerfs to dk (over nerfs for sure), buffs to dh, nerfs and buffs to fury, buffs for arms, buffs and nerfs to mm and bm hunter, buffs and nerfs for ele and enh, buffs and nerfs to ww, buffs and nerfs to ret paladin, and nerfs to devastation.

Basically EVERY single class has had at least one tuning adjustment.

For years, people have been saying, “dont do kneejerk tuning. Don’t over buff or over nerf stuff. Do small changes every 2 weeks”.

That’s EXACTLY what’s been happening.

Now, that being said, I still think we absolutely need better balance.

As you’ve said, rsham, rdruid, dh, ww, dk (and also fire mage) have been critically undertuned for almost the entire expansion and need buffs.

I don’t believe that the nerfs feral, sp, or bm got have been sufficient.

Also tanks should absolutely all receive significant nerfs.

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Other than some healers being in the dumps I don’t think balance is that bad. Lack of queues is a problem tho fs

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Overall balance is definitely okay. However, for several specs, the balance is not and hasn’t been for a while.

Dh, dk, and ww have been criminally undertuned for the majority of the expansion with regards to all their dps specs (and fire mage, but mage has frost to occupy the same role). Dk and ww were really good earlier, but received nerfs to their damage and hero talent trees.

For healing, rsham and rdruid undeniably lag behind their counterparts in terms of throughput and mana and struggle in this meta in general because, while their throughput is similar, their damage and cds are not, which causes significant difficulties in this meta.

That being said, feral, boomy, sp, all 3 lock specs, all 3 rogue specs, 2/3 hunter specs, ret, 2/3 mage specs (although arcane is miserable), both shaman dps specs, devoker, and both warrior specs are all viable/strong.

The vast majority of classes are pretty fairly balanced (I still think that feral, sp, and bm do too much damage relative to the rest of their kits) it just sucks if you’re one of the classes that’s still struggling when everything else has received tuning.

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this take is so bad lmao

ya good mix overall

ww is viable imo, i think they’re just rare bc ppl that pvp on monk are playing mw a lot

The glad mount is awful looking and not even worth the grind. Level a blood dk or something that’s busted and just have fun.

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I’m an absolutely trash rdruid and q’d up to 1900 mmr instantly in 2s the other day with no practice, prolly pressed clone like twice, and i was playing cat bc I wanna be like markers when i grow up. I feel like rdruid is still really strong in 2s, maybe not king of 2s like usual but def in the top tier.

That said I wouldn’t even q 3s on the rdruid with my low skill on it and it’s throughput I can def see it being tough to succeed. So how do you buff rdruid in 3s while not making it a god in 2s?

The good thing is 2s is pointless and means nothing so it doesn’t really matter if something is busted in that bracket

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Technically everything is viable up to 2400!

I’m not sure this is true. You’ll see lock and rogue players swap around to whatever is best, dks as well more often than not. Same with warrior. You really don’t see people play different roles.

Boomies don’t usually swap to feral or vice versa, same with enh/ele shaman, and especially not ww/healer.

Ww really does lack kill pressure atm.

TRUUUUUE. I’m gonna do it, but I’m gonna be disappointed because it’s so bad.

Oh 100%!

Need to redesign how the mastery works with the class.

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If I had a solid team to que with id maybe try but I haven’t in a long time and I don’t feel like finding people out of lfg to play with. I just solo dolo now lol

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as long as awc, wich is over, and mdi are up, they will not do any balance changes, wich is weird since these 2 events that nobody watch or care about are on separate servers