They/them pronouns

[Kravin-area-52]

Maybe see a therapist instead of expecting a game to cater to you.

[Jalanili-moon-guard]

@Álmatafh-azralon

I don’t see any sense in this change

I dunno, man, English is a weird language. It’s a cobbled-together hodgepodge of Germanic and Latin-based languages because the Romans partially conquered the island a bunch of blue-painted scraggly-haired dudes lived on for a while. Unlike many of the Latin-based languages, though, we generally don’t have gendered nouns where other languages do. De-gendering inanimate objects was no problem for us, why not people if they ask?

There has been a singular “they” in the English language documented as far back as the 1300s. For example, “Whose cellphone is this? They probably forgot it” is shorter and less awkward than “He or she probably forgot it.”

Sorry if it briefly makes learning the language a little more confusing, but other languages have been experiencing similar changes over time and English is already a train wreck. It’s a little like busting in and saying, “I JUST learned when and how thee and thou get used, and now you’re gonna switch everything up on me?!” A lot of people are going to go ahead and keep respecting people’s preferences, and common use will likely change over time. A living language will never stay textbook-perfect forever, even if it makes learning it a pain sometimes.

[Highvoltagë-frostmourne]

Gender ideology doesn’t belong in game, nor does it belong in real life. It’s not progressive it’s regressive.

[Rudly-proudmoore]

How is it regressive lol

[Evolseed-dawnbringer (Evolseed)]

My being no understand why your person prefer pronouns.

[Dan-emerald-dream]

@Jalanili-moon-guard

@Álmatafh-azralon

how can i call someone “they/them” - this is very confusing

“Hello Dan, how are you doing?”

There’s no applicable gendered pronoun in that sentence to change. You’re talking to them directly. On the other hand,

“I was talking to Dan and they said that they wanted tacos for lunch.”

You’re talking about Dan, Dan uses they/them pronouns. So instead of saying “he said he wanted” or “she said she wanted” you sub in “they said that they wanted”.

Which is considerably less awkward than the “I don’t use pronouns” approach of “I was talking to Dan and Dan said that Dan wanted tacos”, that just makes you sound like a crazed evil robot.

Please leave me out of this discussion.

[Tiffany-ravencrest]

Freedom from oppression is always progressive.

[Edamann-bonechewer]

Hello, I see you replied to the thread. There are no genders being oppressed within the World of Warcraft!

Thanks for your post and have a great day!

[Tiffany-ravencrest]

Apparently you didn’t read the post to which I responded. It made a comment about real life.

[Jackofdemons-thrall (Jackofdemons)]

You are such a plague and I am sick of it.

[Talontuull-hakkar]

@Highvoltagë-frostmourne

Gender ideology doesn’t belong in game, nor does it belong in real life. It’s not progressive it’s regressive.

Wrong. It does belong in the game and real life. I hope it comes full force and is in every video game and movie/series to come out in the future. You’d clearly love that

[Cennarus-aerie-peak]

@Álmatafh-azralon

It seems like trolling to me,

Sadly, it isn’t trolling. I wish it was.

[Wupan-scarlet-crusade]

OP Please get the help you need. The world is slowly dying trying to deal with all the mass hysteria.

[Cennarus-aerie-peak]

@Sabetha-turalyon

Well obviously if you’ve never heard it before it must not be a thing, because you’re a master of the English language who knows everything about it!

and any information that doesn’t say what you want it to say is clearly untrustworthy.

Your sarcasm and snarky reply aside, before the English language was bastardized, ‘they’ was used as a plural for something. It may have been used as a slang to reference someone indirectly. It wasn’t 'till the last few years or so where left-leaning oxford and others decided to ‘‘update’’ definitions to fit the leftist ideologues.

[Edamann-bonechewer]

Hello, I see you replied to my post. This isn’t real life, it’s World of Warcraft!

Thanks for your post and have a great day!

[Tiffany-ravencrest]

Yes I know. You came along in the middle of a conversation that WAS about real life.

[Edamann-bonechewer]

Hello, I see you replied to my post. It wasn’t though, you just assumed that it was!

Thanks for your post and have a great day!

[Féyrre-wyrmrest-accord]

@Celyn-mannoroth

100% they and them are plural not a singular pronoun, end of story.

Hello! I want to copy and paste something I posted in another thread.

Singular “they” is not only endorsed by the American Psychological Association, the format for most academic writing, as well as the Oxford Dictionary, but traces of singular “they” date back to the 1300’s and exists in Shakespeare, Jane Austen, and even Chaucer. For about two centuries, the singular term “they” was identified as an error and switched to plural form, but in the 21st century, we began to see a rise of singular “they” again. Language is ever evolving, and never stagnant.

The School of Medicine, American Psychological Association, the Oxford Dictionary, and even Owl Purdue accept the singular “they”. I can understand for smaller students who may be learning the basic conventions of grammar to teach the plural they, but singular they also exists and is becoming widely accepted. And I think that’s an important teaching moment to have, not only to respect all gender pronouns but to also discuss the transformative grammatical conventions.

I teach my students that language is constantly changing and adapting. The most recent example of this would be one of my eighth graders trying to look up the word “humongous” in the dictionary last week and he couldn’t find it. When I tried, I also couldn’t find it. Then we saw that the dictionary was copyrighted for 1990. We had a big talk about how words are changing and evolving, and “they” could be an opportunity for you to talk to your students about how that word will be used in their future world. Not how it’s always been used in the past.

So “they” can be used both in plural form and in singular form, and both are technically grammatically correct.

[Shyaelle-wyrmrest-accord (Shyaelle)]

@Drákkaur-silvermoon

I’m a liberal, and am down with this in actual life, but not in media.

That’s a really odd stance to take. Should only straight relationships be portrayed in media? Only the majority ethnic group? Etc?

It’s just part of reality. It’s not “agendas and politics”. It’s just people wanting a way to further create their character.

[Furrfist-frostmourne]

Also lets not forget that the basis of language is shared understanding. As long as I know what you are referring to then it is already working as intended. Thats how we keep coming up with new lingo and terms. Singular they isnt a hard concept to grasp at all…