I always find it funny when people trot this line out without any kind of explanation of what it is that Activision is doing that is so bad, or what it is “old Blizzard” could have done. It is just tossed out there like some conspiracy nutter who has way too many FB posts about “BigPharma” and “BigOil” conspiring against the little people…
I literally said what got patched out, the BG numbers, which is what let people decline the queue without penalty and try again. People aren’t doing that now. Do you even have any idea what is happening here?
I’m not following this. How are my claims not based in reality? We can argue semantics about the legal language and philosophies all day… but in the end, there’s a good chunk of players who’re getting screwed by this behavior, and we are upset by it.
I’m trying to play the game as it was intended, and that’s putting me at a big disadvantage.
For someone who’s so insistent on being right, you should be more careful.
One last time: Going outside WoW’s system to game the random queue to stack a group that’s less random.
They died out because everyone who cared got exalted with av. There was then, no reason for the vast majority of players to keep doing av. Also, people were still doing it, just way less people.
I’m using your own logic against you. You explained why it’s cheating, I used your very same explanation to explain how something else would be considered cheating. Then you denied that my example was cheating even tho it aligns PERFECTLY with your reasonings. Therefor you unknowingly agree that this isn’t cheating. Maybe you’re too dumb to understand?
What are you even talking about? You literally just said nothing I said got patched out. Are you like arguing yourself now or something, or replying to too many people?
You claim my statements are based on denial. I’m not denying anything. I’m literally explaining the steps people are taking and how that aligns (or not) with the EULA that you claimed people were brazenly violating. You’ve yet to actually make a cogent argument to support your “cheater” argument, you’ve just pointed to alleged improper motivations by some players that has nothing to do with cheating at all.
The game is intended to be played both solo and as a group, which is why you can group queue. You’re dramatically overstepping to attack premading of any kind here.
This is a conclusion, not an identified cheat. This is like me asking you to prove up a MURDER and you just say “well duh, the guy is dead” and you never get to any of the elements of the crime necessary to prove the crime. You’re just concluding something.
Show your work.
You’re whining about current Alliance joining BGs in large numbers together, and you’re ignoring HOW they’re doing it. If you don’t know what’s going on, just say so.
These people are the college kids that voted YES to legislation that would add DNA labeling to food. It is an acronym, and it is in our food?!? BAN IT NOW!!!
I literally typed the whole process of how alliance AV premades currently, and same with 2 other people posted that in this exact post. Please read the posts before you reply. Most of the stuff you type add nothing to the discussion.
So you’re saying even though this current scenario is almost identical to the Classic’s, is not gonna get patched out because 1 part of the step is different now.
Am I living in a looney world or am I speaking to an actual human being?
It isn’t almost identical. It isn’t anything alike whatsoever.
In Classic, you queue at the same time, looked at the BG number everyone got, and if you all got the same one, you entered, otherwise you didn’t, dropped queue, waited, and requeued. The groups doing this suffered no penalty while people who weren’t doing this were suddenly finding themselves in BGs without any people.
In TBCC, you queue at the same time, if everyone got a pop at the same time you enter, you then check once inside if you got the same BG, if so, you stay, if not you leave and eat a Deserter penalty. The groups doing this do suffer a penalty if they leave and while abandoned BGs have the same problem as before, there is now a penalty to discourage it which is all Blizzard can do.
They aren’t identical in the slightest, and all Blizzard did to combat the Classic behavior was to eliminate information from the players so coordination was harder. The actual coordination was never the problem.
Oh look, another deflection and a rude one at that.
If you’re going to easily deny that blizzard doesn’t want something as bad as a massive faction imbalance, it’s going to be very easy to also shoot down the idea of premades.
See Fasc? Now we’re getting somewhere. Your main point now is the event in Classic and BC is not identical because 1 part of the step is different, which is the BG #.
But think about it, why do you think the BG # doesn’t show in BC but showed up in Classic? If you actually done your homework, the BG # is what they patched to fix the que rigging. You get it now?
The only difference in step happened because Blizzard wanted to prevent the cross-server premades/ que rigging from happening, which they did hinder an extremely significant amount until about couple weeks ago.
You really need to do your homework and not speak out of your butt. 1 part of the step being different to achieve cross-server premade and avoid group que limitations via Discord is blatantly cheating. There are even forum posts right now of HvH win trading via Discord. But hey, they’re not cheating cause it’s a voice program, amirite?