They claim that pre-made teams aren't stacked

what does ? GET BENT MEAN ?

Yeah they have on average 25-30 people in each AV game channel, it is wildly popular and effective, unfortunately for them the server seems like it is going to crash and burn soon as they can’t keep up with all the Alliance joining it so excited to get in on the exploit while it’s still hot.

No, we’re not.

Then they need to be reminded what a premade actually is.

Desperation. Pathetic.

What mental gymnastics? People queue for AV en masse while on Discord, then if enough of them get into the same AV, they stick with it, otherwise they bail and try again once Deserter falls off. Tell me at what point any of this is actionable. I can wait.

What does the existence of a queue restriction have on a bunch of people hitting their button at the same time? What exactly is Blizzard going to do about that?

…LOL no. Just say you don’t have a citation. In-game CS reps are only reacting to what you’re telling them, nothing more, and they aren’t actual GMs nor are they Devs.

People have been doing this method since the change to seeing what BG you’re entering. Folks never stopped because it isn’t a problem.

You’ve yet to identify any logical errors so I’m just going to assume from here on out that you don’t know what “mental gymnastics” means, you just use it because you think it shuts down opposition. Don’t be ignorant.

How long is never?

No, i don’t. I’d agree that the vanilla AV premades crossed a certain line that the current version does not. You can’t stop players from queuing up at the same time, and you can’t stop them from sorting out into discord channels. This isn’t even an unreasonable thing to be doing. Horde did exactly this during vanilla, but it didn’t really catch on.

It wouldn’t get addressed at all. Are you kidding me? You literally get coddled on every single thing that you complain about, to the detriment of the alliance, and then turn around and make this statement? A majority of the PVPers are horde. It is two wolves and a sheep voting what is for dinner. You would flood the forums in support of your premades because it is self serving, and you’d get away with it because you have the strong majority.

unbelievable

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Is that sort of like when you getting camped in open world pvp so hard that you needed the entire game changed in your favor within a week not getting addressed at all?

If using discord is a bannable offense, i guess 99% of wow players need to be banned now. Just because alliance isn’t having base races anymore and are stomping the horde players into the ground by actually pvping, you babies can’t take it. Just don’t queue for av if you don’t like it, you have 3 other bgs you guys completely dominate

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If it’s anything like your massive whinefest prior to phase 2, it will take less than a week.

…what? What “massive whinefest” did Alliance do prior to Phase 2?

Hahaha, good joke there.

So you don’t have anything, you’re just making things up to justify whinging now?

Your entire faction shed such a massive amount of tears that they literally had to change the whole game for you because you were so upset over being camped and chain killed repeatedly to the point where you would have to return to the spirit healer and give up on what you were doing.

…you do understand that you said PRIOR to Phase 2 right? Before Honor was a thing that could get you anywhere?

What are you talking about?

Cute that you think your strawman is an argument. :wink:

What are you even talking about? Some of your posts don’t make any sense I have to tell you.

There was a guy that would camp every day hisbrad farm and i call this guy THE MOTIVATOR. Since people could not wait to get max lv and camp him.

I said many time he was doing gods work. You dont know how much you need something until its gone

the entire point is that i enjoy all the cope going on so i definitely not

It’s been explained over and over by me and others in this thread. Not all of us like repeating ourselves over and over. I find your arguments to be evasive and laced with denial. Ultimately, if the pre-made teams didn’t provide a significant advantage over a PuG, folks wouldn’t be setting up these servers or going through the efforts to circumvent the efforts made by Blizzard to disrupt this behavior (and based on the last blue post, further measures will be enacted.)

I’ve not called for any punishment here, nor am I the only one displeased here. Plenty of Alliance are getting screwed by this selfish behavior.

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You said Alliance managed to get the entire game changed through whining prior to Phase 2.

No one was getting chain camped BEFORE Phase 2. There are literally multiple Alliance guilds called “Remember Phase 2” which is when all the murder balls of Horde did the camping.

What are you talking about?

Oh ok, so you have a pedantic non-point but you don’t have anything to add to the thread. Some call that trolling.